Mike Pence: One of Trump's greatest choices

[FSSL]

Mike Pence, once again, breaks a tie vote... this time... to defund Planned Parenthood!

Deo Gloria!

 

[Baptist City Holdout]

Pence is one of Trump's best choices and Bush was one of Reagan's worse. The Bushes are nice people, but Reagan could have picked a much more conservative for VP and had no problem willing.

 

[Smellin Coffee]

A little off topic, but I think the liberals need to get off Pence's back about his not meeting with other women, as long as he holds to his conviction. Where I disagree with him is this: despite his personal conviction in this area, he is willing to sacrifice his testimony reputation by being the cohort of an admitted, braggadocios and unrepentant sexual predator.

 

[sword]

Pence is one of Trump's best choices and Bush was one of Reagan's worse. The Bushes are nice people, but Reagan could have picked a much more conservative for VP and had no problem willing.

My memory is a little shady, but if I recall Reagan had fully planned on selecting his bitter enemy an adversary in the race for the Republican nomination for president. It was in the last few days before the convention, when Reagan and Ford could not agree on cabinet picks and other policy, that Reagan sought another choice.

If I remember, at the time, the pundits said, Reagan needed a moderate who was strong in the areas he was not. George Herbert Walker Bush would fit the bill. Bush?s father had been a very well-known and connected investment banker and later a powerful senator from New England. George W (41) served 2 terms in the U.S. House, served as the Chair of the RNC, was U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. and served as CIA director. He was also very well connected in Washington and was considered a foreign policy and defense expert. These were both areas Reagan had little to no experience and GWB (41) balanced out the ticket. Bush could also carry the eastern states that Reagan worried he would have some trouble with.

History will deem the Bush choice a good one, regardless of what many may feel today. GW was a moderate, but still a decent vice president. At the time Reagan was a long shot both in the primaries and in the actual election. In hind sight America was very ready for someone like Reagan and it would not have mattered who ran with him he would have likely succeeded.

 

[sword]

A little off topic, but I think the liberals need to get off Pence's back about his not meeting with other women, as long as he holds to his conviction. Where I disagree with him is this: despite his personal conviction in this area, he is willing to sacrifice his testimony reputation by being the cohort of an admitted, braggadocios and unrepentant sexual predator.

1. Joseph served as an advisor to Potiphar and several Pharaohs (God would use him greatly).
2. Mordecai served King Ahasuerus. (God used him and Ester to save the Jews).
3. Daniel served as an advisor to Nebuchadnezzar, Belshazzar, and Darius. (God used him to save the known world from starvation).
4. The prophet Micaiah advised King Ahab and King Jehoshaphat.

Maybe a strong Christian like Mike Pense is there for "Such a time as this".

 

[Ransom]

Bill Clinton met with a woman other than his wife alone in his office. We all know how that turned out. Clinton is a liberal hero.

Mike Pence sets boundaries in his interaction with other women that respect his wife and the exclusive relationship with her he vowed to keep. For this he is called a creep, a sexist, a rape-culture apologist, and other things.

The left is genuinely perverted.

 

[Smellin Coffee]

A little off topic, but I think the liberals need to get off Pence's back about his not meeting with other women, as long as he holds to his conviction. Where I disagree with him is this: despite his personal conviction in this area, he is willing to sacrifice his testimony reputation by being the cohort of an admitted, braggadocios and unrepentant sexual predator.

1. Joseph served as an advisor to Potiphar and several Pharaohs (God would use him greatly).
2. Mordecai served King Ahasuerus. (God used him and Ester to save the Jews).
3. Daniel served as an advisor to Nebuchadnezzar, Belshazzar, and Darius. (God used him to save the known world from starvation).
4. The prophet Micaiah advised King Ahab and King Jehoshaphat.

Those "officials" were not elected. Most of those "servants" were appointed, they didn't volunteer their alliances with the leader with whom their political party "morally" opposed.

Maybe a strong Christian like Mike Pense is there for "Such a time as this".

This phrase is 'Christian spin' for "Trump is God's will for America!" so as to assuage their hypocritical consciences.

 

[subllibrm]

I just read a little diatribe on Slate about this "issue." Just as Eve added to the "rule" about the forbidden fruit the author adds to the "rule" that Mr. and Mrs. Pence have made for themselves. She claims that: "she?s also literally the only woman he?s allowed to talk to in many common social situations." which gives Mrs. Pence inordinate influence over her husband and his thinking.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2017/03/29/mike_pence_s_tight_relationship_with_his_wife_doesn_t_mean_he_respects_women.html

 

[TheRealJonStewart]

Pence is one of Trump's best choices and Bush was one of Reagan's worse. The Bushes are nice people, but Reagan could have picked a much more conservative for VP and had no problem willing.

Ya just like Reagan could have picked a more conservative for Supreme Court?

 

[Smellin Coffee]

I just read a little diatribe on Slate about this "issue." Just as Eve added to the "rule" about the forbidden fruit the author adds to the "rule" that Mr. and Mrs. Pence have made for themselves. She claims that: "she?s also literally the only woman he?s allowed to talk to in many common social situations." which gives Mrs. Pence inordinate influence over her husband and his thinking.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2017/03/29/mike_pence_s_tight_relationship_with_his_wife_doesn_t_mean_he_respects_women.html

You mean he would be against having a woman preach to him?

 

[LongGone]

Bill Clinton met with a woman other than his wife alone in his office. We all know how that turned out. Clinton is a liberal hero.

Mike Pence sets boundaries in his interaction with other women that respect his wife and the exclusive relationship with her he vowed to keep. For this he is called a creep, a sexist, a rape-culture apologist, and other things.

The left is genuinely perverted.

I will agree that this issue gets magnified by the fact the Pence is a conservative.  He has the right to do whatever he wants but don't be surprised when a man who call his wife "mother" in public meetings and can't meet one on one for lunch in a public place to discuss is seen as odd. Most married people in the working world have interactions with the opposite sex in appropriate situations without disrespecting or cheating on their spouse.  Maybe I have been tainted by pastors who have screamed this is the right way to live but were getting extra action on the side themselves. I don't think people who question the choice that Pence has made have to be perverted.

 

[Smellin Coffee]

Bill Clinton met with a woman other than his wife alone in his office. We all know how that turned out. Clinton is a liberal hero.

Mike Pence sets boundaries in his interaction with other women that respect his wife and the exclusive relationship with her he vowed to keep. For this he is called a creep, a sexist, a rape-culture apologist, and other things.

The left is genuinely perverted.

I will agree that this issue gets magnified by the fact the Pence is a conservative.  He has the right to do whatever he wants but don't be surprised when a man who call his wife "mother" in public meetings and can't meet one on one for lunch in a public place to discuss is seen as odd. Most married people in the working world have interactions with the opposite sex in appropriate situations without disrespecting or cheating on their spouse.  Maybe I have been tainted by pastors who have screamed this is the right way to live but were getting extra action on the side themselves. I don't think people who question the choice that Pence has made have to be perverted.

Exactly. And when one who openly holds to Pence's stance candidates as a moral issue, supports and aligns himself with a confessed sexual predator, he opens himself up to that extra bit of ridicule for his hypocrisy. Not saying the scorn is deserved, but he opened it up on himself.

 

[Tarheel Baptist]

Bill Clinton met with a woman other than his wife alone in his office. We all know how that turned out. Clinton is a liberal hero.

Mike Pence sets boundaries in his interaction with other women that respect his wife and the exclusive relationship with her he vowed to keep. For this he is called a creep, a sexist, a rape-culture apologist, and other things.

The left is genuinely perverted.

I will agree that this issue gets magnified by the fact the Pence is a conservative.  He has the right to do whatever he wants but don't be surprised when a man who call his wife "mother" in public meetings and can't meet one on one for lunch in a public place to discuss is seen as odd. Most married people in the working world have interactions with the opposite sex in appropriate situations without disrespecting or cheating on their spouse.  Maybe I have been tainted by pastors who have screamed this is the right way to live but were getting extra action on the side themselves. I don't think people who question the choice that Pence has made have to be perverted.

Exactly. And when one who openly holds to Pence's stance candidates as a moral issue, supports and aligns himself with a confessed sexual predator, he opens himself up to that extra bit of ridicule for his hypocrisy. Not saying the scorn is deserved, but he opened it up on himself.

I didn't know Pence was friendly with Clinton.

 

[sword]

Pence is one of Trump's best choices and Bush was one of Reagan's worse. The Bushes are nice people, but Reagan could have picked a much more conservative for VP and had no problem willing.

Ya just like Reagan could have picked a more conservative for Supreme Court?

I agree with you here but remember Anthony Kennedy and Sandra Day O'Connor were very conservative at the time they were appointed. They drifted farther and farther to the left the longer they were on the bench.

 

[Smellin Coffee]

Pence is one of Trump's best choices and Bush was one of Reagan's worse. The Bushes are nice people, but Reagan could have picked a much more conservative for VP and had no problem willing.

Ya just like Reagan could have picked a more conservative for Supreme Court?

I agree with you here but remember Anthony Kennedy and Sandra Day O'Connor were very conservative at the time they were appointed. They drifted farther and farther to the left the longer they were on the bench.

Perhaps "middle ground" is where they all should be because that is where are liberties lie.

 

[LongGone]

Bill Clinton met with a woman other than his wife alone in his office. We all know how that turned out. Clinton is a liberal hero.

Mike Pence sets boundaries in his interaction with other women that respect his wife and the exclusive relationship with her he vowed to keep. For this he is called a creep, a sexist, a rape-culture apologist, and other things.

The left is genuinely perverted.

I will agree that this issue gets magnified by the fact the Pence is a conservative.  He has the right to do whatever he wants but don't be surprised when a man who call his wife "mother" in public meetings and can't meet one on one for lunch in a public place to discuss is seen as odd. Most married people in the working world have interactions with the opposite sex in appropriate situations without disrespecting or cheating on their spouse.  Maybe I have been tainted by pastors who have screamed this is the right way to live but were getting extra action on the side themselves. I don't think people who question the choice that Pence has made have to be perverted.

Exactly. And when one who openly holds to Pence's stance candidates as a moral issue, supports and aligns himself with a confessed sexual predator, he opens himself up to that extra bit of ridicule for his hypocrisy. Not saying the scorn is deserved, but he opened it up on himself.

I didn't know Pence was friendly with Clinton.

Yeah...let's ignore the Republican of 2017 and focus on the Democrat elected in 1996 8)

 

[Smellin Coffee]

Bill Clinton met with a woman other than his wife alone in his office. We all know how that turned out. Clinton is a liberal hero.

Mike Pence sets boundaries in his interaction with other women that respect his wife and the exclusive relationship with her he vowed to keep. For this he is called a creep, a sexist, a rape-culture apologist, and other things.

The left is genuinely perverted.

I will agree that this issue gets magnified by the fact the Pence is a conservative.  He has the right to do whatever he wants but don't be surprised when a man who call his wife "mother" in public meetings and can't meet one on one for lunch in a public place to discuss is seen as odd. Most married people in the working world have interactions with the opposite sex in appropriate situations without disrespecting or cheating on their spouse.  Maybe I have been tainted by pastors who have screamed this is the right way to live but were getting extra action on the side themselves. I don't think people who question the choice that Pence has made have to be perverted.

Exactly. And when one who openly holds to Pence's stance candidates as a moral issue, supports and aligns himself with a confessed sexual predator, he opens himself up to that extra bit of ridicule for his hypocrisy. Not saying the scorn is deserved, but he opened it up on himself.

I didn't know Pence was friendly with Clinton.

It might not matter to you, but Clinton never confessed to sexually assaulting anyone. The affair with Lewinsky was consensual. Not saying Clinton wasn't predatory as there appear to be victims out there, it's just he didn't admit to doing such a thing, much less brag about it.

But then again, I guess ethics and character don't matter when it comes to "good politic'n"!

 

[Ransom]

It might not matter to you, but Clinton never confessed to sexually assaulting anyone.

Quite true, if by "anyone" you  mean Anita Broaddrick.

Speaking of perverse, how about the way the Left excoriates Donald Trump for lewd remarks while excusing an actual rapist?

 

[LongGone]

It might not matter to you, but Clinton never confessed to sexually assaulting anyone.

Quite true, if by "anyone" you  mean Anita Broaddrick.

Speaking of perverse, how about the way the Left excoriates Donald Trump for lewd remarks while excusing an actual rapist?

You can't use actual rapist when she said he did and he said he didn't. Not excusing Clinton behavior but don't get how you focus on allegations from the President in 1996 and excuse the remarks of the President elected in 2016.

 

[Smellin Coffee]

It might not matter to you, but Clinton never confessed to sexually assaulting anyone.

Quite true, if by "anyone" you  mean Anita Broaddrick.

Speaking of perverse, how about the way the Left excoriates Donald Trump for lewd remarks while excusing an actual rapist?

Here is the rest of what I said to create the context:

Not saying Clinton wasn't predatory as there appear to be victims out there, it's just he didn't admit to doing such a thing, much less brag about it.

Besides, here is the Broaddrick story from Wikipedia about Clinton's lack of admission to the incident. Trump bragged about his being a predator.

On Friday night, February 19, 1999, Clinton's attorney, David Kendall, denied the allegations on Clinton's behalf. Kendall stated: "Any allegation that the president assaulted Mrs. Broaddrick more than 20 years ago is absolutely false. Beyond that, we're not going to comment."

President Clinton himself did not say anything on the matter. When asked about Broaddrick's claims at a news conference on February 24, 1999, Clinton said: "Well, my counsel has made a statement about the ... issue, and I have nothing to add to it."