My Visit to Steven Anderson?s Faithful Word Baptist Church...

Ransom said:
prophet said:
Everything I think I see, becomes a Pelagian to me....

That's right. No one is as theologically informed as you.
Deflection complete.

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prophet said:
I have to ask, because 50% of what I believe wasn't taught to me by anyone now alive (history, etc.)

... or, you don't know enough about historical theology to know when you side with the Devil or not.
 
prophet said:
Deflection complete.

Do you mean like the complete deflection by KJV-only advocates whenever they are asked to present a positive, clear, consistent, reasonable, sound, scriptural case for their own stated KJV-only claims for the KJV?
 
FSSL said:
prophet said:
I have to ask, because 50% of what I believe wasn't taught to me by anyone now alive (history, etc.)

... or, you don't know enough about historical theology to know when you side with the Devil or not.
You are way off here.

#1, I was asking a question, in all sincerity, so I could better answer yours.

#2, What are you talking about, here?
I've demonstrated a penchant for history.
This whole thread has consisted of you flying off of the handle...did you change meds recently?

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logos1560 said:
prophet said:
Deflection complete.

Do you mean like the complete deflection by KJV-only advocates whenever they are asked to present a positive, clear, consistent, reasonable, sound, scriptural case for their own stated KJV-only claims for the KJV?
#1, I'm not KJVO, so I'm not sure why you brought that up.

#2, you are way off of topic.

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FSSL said:
Perhaps Anderson has a very distorted historical theology. Same with any KJVO, they don't know their historical theology.

Steven Anderson, the subject of this thread, is KJV-only.      It is a clear example of where men attempt to pass off the opinions and traditions of men as supposedly being a Bible doctrine of God.
 
prophet said:
I've demonstrated a penchant for history.

Unfortunately, you have not. In fact, you are saying the same thing as Pelagius and you don't even realize it.

This whole thread has consisted of you flying off of the handle...did you change meds recently?

"Whole thread?" "Flying off the handle?" All I am doing is giving a sound rebuttal to your statements. People who say they came up with a substantial amount of doctrine on their own are, in fact, dishonest. You got this teaching about the imputation of Adam's sin from somewhere. I would like to know, where. Hyles Anderson?
 
FSSL said:
Anderson is confused about the concept of Adam's sin. In so doing, he says that we are sinners when we commit sin. He is a Pelagianist/Finneyite, thoroughly (in that regard).


It didn't take long for the the Calvinist whipping boy to get mentioned [the 4th or 5th post]


:)


 
Bob H said:
FSSL said:
Anderson is confused about the concept of Adam's sin. In so doing, he says that we are sinners when we commit sin. He is a Pelagianist/Finneyite, thoroughly (in that regard).


It didn't take long for the the Calvinist whipping boy to get mentioned [the 4th or 5th post]


:)

Oh... Finney?
 
FSSL said:
Bob H said:
FSSL said:
Anderson is confused about the concept of Adam's sin. In so doing, he says that we are sinners when we commit sin. He is a Pelagianist/Finneyite, thoroughly (in that regard).


It didn't take long for the the Calvinist whipping boy to get mentioned [the 4th or 5th post]


:)

Oh... Finney?

Did you know that Finney left his wife on their wedding day to go to a meeting and didn't see her again for 10 years??  :o
 
Twisted said:
Did you know that Finney left his wife on their wedding day to go to a meeting and didn't see her again for 10 years??  :o

Nice bait tactic ;)

IF that were the case, and it wasn't... it would have been FAR better than to deny the imputation of Adam's sin and deny the depravity of man.

That theology affected the gospel message. Salvation could be conjured up in anyone because they were not depraved and did not have the imputation of Adamic sin. Just preach hard enough, long enough and use various measures to get that soul saved!

Sound familiar? You must have attended an IFB evangelistic meeting in the 1970s-today.
 
FSSL said:
Nice bait tactic ;)

Not meant to be.  I'm sure I read that in his biography, but that was years ago.  I found a Finney timeline and it would appear to be wrong.

Am I thinking of another evangelist of years ago?
 
Twisted said:
FSSL said:
Nice bait tactic ;)

Not meant to be.  I'm sure I read that in his biography, but that was years ago.  I found a Finney timeline and it would appear to be wrong.

Am I thinking of another evangelist of years ago?

:)

Sounds more like Sheffy!


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FSSL said:
prophet said:
I've demonstrated a penchant for history.

Unfortunately, you have not. In fact, you are saying the same thing as Pelagius and you don't even realize it.

This whole thread has consisted of you flying off of the handle...did you change meds recently?

"Whole thread?" "Flying off the handle?" All I am doing is giving a sound rebuttal to your statements. People who say they came up with a substantial amount of doctrine on their own are, in fact, dishonest. You got this teaching about the imputation of Adam's sin from somewhere. I would like to know, where. Hyles Anderson?

You have given rebuttal to strawmen which you've erected, and demonstrated a lack of the ability to grasp the definition of "imputation".

You are tossing out wild accusations, and then treating them as if I had confessed to them.

I feel like I'm getting the run around from a detective right now, who thinks I'm guilty, so he's just gonna harass me til I break down.

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prophet said:
I feel like I'm getting the run around from a detective right now, who thinks I'm guilty, so he's just gonna harass me til I break down.

Asking where you learned this stuff from is harassment?

I gotta go and get me a Dodge Truck like that!!
 
FSSL said:
I can only take Anderson at his word. He says exactly the same things as Finney. Finney rejected "original sin".....


Albert Barnes would be proud................................................wait a minute he's a presby so he's alright. My bad










PS: this is a interesting thread. It'll take a while to plow thru


 
Twisted said:
Ransom said:
Twisted said:
Where does the writer get the idea that Anderson is a Pelagian?

He is vehemently anti-Calvinist, and at least semi-Pelagian.

What does he believe about original sin?

I have no idea and I'm not going to ask. 

I sent the writer an email asking him the question.

I finally got an answer, such as it is.

"Anderson denies God's free grace."


 
Twisted said:
Twisted said:
Ransom said:
Twisted said:
Where does the writer get the idea that Anderson is a Pelagian?

He is vehemently anti-Calvinist, and at least semi-Pelagian.

What does he believe about original sin?




I have no idea and I'm not going to ask. 

I sent the writer an email asking him the question.

I finally got an answer, such as it is.

"Anderson denies God's free grace."

So we don?t really know what he is, just he?s not a Calvinist.
 
FSSL said:
Twisted said:
"Anderson denies God's free grace."[/i]

Why not? He never experienced God's grace, so it is non-existent.
This is also not true.

He doesn't deny free grace.

Good night, are we so eager to have a Boogeyman, that we'll attribute any wild heresy to him?



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