Our Political Discourse.

[Tarheel Baptist]

Why does the world consider opposition to same-sex "marriage" unrighteous?

Seems someone enacted laws to define what is righteous, and the spirit of the age followed suit.

I think people instinctively knew that.
What we find our culture normalizing are things considered immoral and unnatural for thousands of years.

Laws do legislate morality…according to who is making the laws. Which usually comes back to political policy.

 

[Ekklesian]

So he considers Fuentes problematic only or mainly because of his sexual proclivities?

You kinda have to listen to the whole thing. But, his sin is not his negative view of Netanyahu.

 

[Tarheel Baptist]

You kinda have to listen to the whole thing. But, his sin is not his negative view of Netanyahu.

What about his hatred for Jewish people?
His avowed love for Hitler and Stalin?

 

[subllibrm]

Fuentes is a vile, despicable human, who believes and vocalizes vile despicable ideas and beliefs, in a vile despicable manner. And he’s gaining traction by being propped up by people like Tucker Carlson.

But he’s a Trump critic, so he just may have some of your mysterious moral virtues.

A Trump critic who wears a MAGA hat.

The first part of your response sounds like my observations about Mr. Trump that got so many knickers in a twist around here. But based on the history of rationalization here, I have no reason to doubt that Mr. Fuentes would be excused for his behavior if he were the GOP presidential nominee. Because policies and all that.

 

[ALAYMAN]

... I have no reason to doubt that Mr. Fuentes would be excused for his behavior if he were the GOP presidential nominee. Because policies and all that.

Excused by who?

 

[Bruh]

Who does this, and please define what you mean to put America first?

When we make a decision are we looking out for another countries interest or ours?

Are we more concerned with the interest of other countries or ours?

When we make a trade deal who does it benefit us or them?

If we are going to send our kids to war is it to protect our interests or our people? Or is it a political move on behalf of another country?

 

[Bruh]

Why does the world consider opposition to same-sex "marriage" unrighteous?

Seems someone enacted laws to define what is righteous, and the spirit of the age followed suit.

Ok you’re right and I’m wrong.

 

[Bruh]

All laws technically legislate morality.
You raise the point whose morality will be legislated? That is the crux of the matter.

In the biblical sense. As I’ve said, I do not believe that Christians should rule the land.

 

[Bruh]

Why does the world consider opposition to same-sex "marriage" unrighteous?

Seems someone enacted laws to define what is righteous, and the spirit of the age followed suit.

As I’ve said, I was speaking in the biblical sense.

 

[Bruh]

"The law is holy, and the commandment is holy and righteous and good" (Rom. 7:12).

If the Law is righteous and good, it certainly sounds like it legislates morality to me.

I’m talking about our government.

 

[ALAYMAN]

When we make a decision are we looking out for another countries interest or ours?

Are we more concerned with the interest of other countries or ours?

When we make a trade deal who does it benefit us or them?

If we are going to send our kids to war is it to protect our interests or our people? Or is it a political move on behalf of another country?

This is a basic international policy question, but don't you think that there are times when building the interest/investment in other countries is in the best interest of our country?

 

[Bruh]

Leave it to a "Post Toastie" to get to the bottom of things. (Pun not intended—really.)

Gay porn? I’m not just gonna take his word for it. He’s gonna need to bring receipts. If not, it just hear say.

 

[Bruh]

This is a basic international policy question, but don't you think that there are times when building the interest/investment in other countries is in the best interest of our country?

At times sure. But our government has proven many times that they are not doing it for those reasons. We have been lied to many many times.

Many time congress sends our kids to war or regime change to make themselves rich by bending the knee to foreign lobbyist.

 

[subllibrm]

Excused by who?

The same people who excuse Mr. Trump's bad behavior. Because policies.

 

[Bruh]

A Trump critic who wears a MAGA hat.

The first part of your response sounds like my observations about Mr. Trump that got so many knickers in a twist around here. But based on the history of rationalization here, I have no reason to doubt that Mr. Fuentes would be excused for his behavior if he were the GOP presidential nominee. Because policies and all that.

Average everyday people will over look a lot if…..whoever is talking about putting America First.

 

[ALAYMAN]

At times sure. But our government has proven many times that they are not doing it for those reasons. We have been lied to many many times.

Many time congress sends our kids to war or regime change to make themselves rich by bending the knee to foreign lobbyist.

Based upon your alignment with Mr. Fuentes, how can you guarantee any politician will carry through with such a America first policy once they are in office?

 

[ALAYMAN]

The same people who excuse Mr. Trump's bad behavior. Because policies.

That isn't true for me, cuz I have a certain smell test. Fuentes doesn't pass it, but marginally, Trump does. What's your smell test?

 

[Ransom]

As I’ve said, I was speaking in the biblical sense.

And yet, I'm the one who cited the Bible.

 

[Bruh]

Based upon your alignment with Mr. Fuentes, how can you guarantee any politician will carry through with such an America first policy once they are in office?

Well, there’re going to need to be throughly vetted. Meaning who have they been aligned with for that past 5 years or 10 years or 25 years.

How have they voted in the past? Are they willing to go on certain podcast and have a 2-3 hour conversation. Doesn’t need to be Nicks podcast. But maybe Tuckers. Or someone else’s podcast. ( Did you watch the one with Ted Cruz and Tucker)

What type of speech’s have they given in the last 5-25 years? Who have they given speeches for? Have they been consistent in voting? Have they been consistent in their speeches?

Who have their donors been? Who are their present donors? How much money have they received from their donors.

Who have they interviewed with? What kind of language do they use in their speeches?

But if someone gets in and they do not do what they said they were gonna do, then we vote them out they will not be re-elected. And we know they like to be re-elected their careers depend on it.

Does that make sense? I’m sure there are more ways to at least help to put in America First people.

 

[ALAYMAN]

"The law is holy, and the commandment is holy and righteous and good" (Rom. 7:12).

If the Law is righteous and good, it certainly sounds like it legislates morality to me.

Okay, flesh this out. How are you citing the usage of "the law" in the context of God's moral law given to man (in Romans 7), and the legislative law given through human agency?