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Okay, flesh this out. How are you citing the usage of "the law" in the context of God's moral law given to man (in Romans 7), and the legislative law given through human agency?
That’s exactly what I’m saying thank you!

I have trouble communicating sometimes, so says my wife :-)
 
Okay, flesh this out. How are you citing the usage of "the law" in the context of God's moral law given to man (in Romans 7), and the legislative law given through human agency?


I was addressing the claim that you can't legislate morality. The Law of Moses, being righteous and good, reflects the revealed will of God, which is also righteous and good. The purpose of the Law is to show what is good. It literally legislates morality.

Human laws, though fallible, have the same aim.
 
A Trump critic who wears a MAGA hat. 🙄

The first part of your response sounds like my observations about Mr. Trump that got so many knickers in a twist around here. But based on the history of rationalization here, I have no reason to doubt that Mr. Fuentes would be excused for his behavior if he were the GOP presidential nominee. Because policies and all that.

You have no reason to doubt…
Well then the argument is over, the moral arbiter has spoken…even if he is speaking in fairy tales. Fuentes has attacked Trump in vile language. Again, his Trump hatred may yet bring you and him together.

When will you tell us the moral standards for a candidate?
 
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Based upon your alignment with Mr. Fuentes, how can you guarantee any politician will carry through with such an America first policy once they are in office?
To add to my reply…..we need to infiltrate the think tanks, like, Heritage Foundation and TPUSA very powerful organizations. Don’t say aloud that you’re America first keep it a secret. Be a little liberal talk moderate views but stay hidden. Once you begin to climb the ladder and reach the top now you can begin to change the culture from the top and move things to actually being America first.

This also applies to Yale and these kinds of colleges. America First people need to infiltrate these institutions on the down low. Don’t post America First comments on social media stay very quiet.

I’d like to think that these things will happen. I don’t know, only time will tell. It is fun though:-)

I’d like to believe we all on the FFF know that our country is not doing well. We are literally controlled by Speacial interest groups. People, elected officials are policy.
 
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I was addressing the claim that you can't legislate morality. The Law of Moses, being righteous and good, reflects the revealed will of God, which is also righteous and good. The purpose of the Law is to show what is good. It literally legislates morality.

Human laws, though fallible, have the same aim.
I’m speaking specifically about the heart of people. Only God can change a heart, as you know. The laws of the land can do no such thing.
 
You have no reason to doubt…
Well then the argument is over, the moral arbiter has spoken…even if he is speaking in fairy tales. Fuentes has attacked Trump in vile language. Again, his Trump hatred may yet bring you and him together.

When will you tell us the moral standards for a candidate?
Moral standards? America First, that simple.
 
Well, there’re going to need to be throughly vetted. Meaning who have they been aligned with for that past 5 years or 10 years or 25 years.

How have they voted in the past? Are they willing to go on certain podcast and have a 2-3 hour conversation. Doesn’t need to be Nicks podcast. But maybe Tuckers. Or someone else’s podcast. ( Did you watch the one with Ted Cruz and Tucker)

What type of speech’s have they given in the last 5-25 years? Who have they given speeches for? Have they been consistent in voting? Have they been consistent in their speeches?

Who have their donors been? Who are their present donors? How much money have they received from their donors.

Who have they interviewed with? What kind of language do they use in their speeches?

But if someone gets in and they do not do what they said they were gonna do, then we vote them out they will not be re-elected. And we know they like to be re-elected their careers depend on it.

Does that make sense? I’m sure there are more ways to at least help to put in America First people.
Keeping it short, what you're proposing isn't pragmatically possible because there are enough people with differing worldviews about what's best for America nationally that you'll never be able to get enough unanimity/consensus to make it happen. And knowing that, in politics, realistically you must expect a certain amount of compromise based upon the pluralistic nature of our Republic. So Fuentes using leverage and techniques such as cozying up to the far left in order to undermine a particular candidate, like MAGA for instance, may be politically powerful for his movement but it will not accomplish what you're suggesting.
 
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Keeping it short, what you're proposing isn't pragmatically possible because there are enough people with differing worldviews about what's best for America nationally that you'll never be able to get enough unanimity/consensus to make it happen. And knowing that, in politics, realistically you must expect a certain amount of compromise based upon the pluralistic nature of our Republic. So Fuentes using leverage and techniques such as cozying up to the far left in order to undermine a particular candidate, like MAGA for instance, maybe politically powerful for his movement that it will not accomplish what you're suggesting.
I don’t know man there’s a lot of young college kids asking questions at these TPUSA events, even directly to JD Vance. Like I’ve said, Joe Kemp for example, it was bc Nick went on his podcast and said throw the election he’s not actually America First and Joe lost the election. Nicks talking about going and bringing his people to these events.

We’ll see if he actually has that kind of following.
 
Speaking of political discourse and political climate the Democrat Party voters elected a communist and an attorney general who wished death on his political opponent and his children! That speaks volumes on the subject.

We’ll have to wait for Sub to tell us they weren’t electing a pastor and weigh in on the morality of these officials.
 
Leave it to a "Post Toastie" to get to the bottom of things. (Pun not intended—really.)

Wilson alluded to the narrative of Sisera and Jael. I visit the Precious Moments Chapel every year. It was something to do on the way home from Branson. It is some of the most impressive artwork I've seen, and one tear-jerker of a tour despite the cartoonish injustice done to the Biblical figures and narratives represented.

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Sometime ago I was bemoaning the fact of cutsy-ness of the characters, how that prevented Sam Butler from ever representing the gravity and severity of any of the events represented, and certainly kept him from something like the Passion and other serious and central themes in the Bible.

A couple days later I got this from my SIL.

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I ran it through Grok to make it photorealistic, but Grok won't generate violent images, and this is what it gave me:

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What about his hatred for Jewish people?
His avowed love for Hitler and Stalin?
If you’re talking about Nick, doesn’t love Hiltler or Stalin.

He said they were great men not honorable men. If you were to listen to Ann entire podcast you’d know that.

Great in that their influence was real and far reaching. Honorable he did not say.

Jack Hyles was a great man in that his influence in the IFB denomination honorable is different.

You cannot tell much of a clip taken out of context. You’d need to listen to an entire podcast

He’s explained this.

He explained and said these men are evil and wicked. He went on to say, isn’t this a given? do I have to explain everything?
 
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If you’re talking about Nick, doesn’t love Hiltler or Stalin.

He said they were great men not honorable men. If you were to listen to Ann entire podcast you’d know that.
Maybe Nick should pick a better adjective when describing Hitler and Stalin. I don’t think “great” is probably the best choice of words. It gives the appearance of dog whistling to certain group of people, but I’m pretty sure Nick already knows this. 😉
 
If you’re talking about Nick, doesn’t love Hiltler or Stalin.

He said they were great men not honorable men. If you were to listen to Ann entire podcast you’d know that.

Great in that their influence was real and far reaching. Honorable he did not say.

Jack Hyles was a great man in that his influence in the IFB denomination honorable is different.

You cannot tell much of a clip taken out of context. You’d need to listen to an entire podcast

He’s explained this.

He explained and said these men are evil and wicked. He went on to say, isn’t this a given? do I have to explain

In what context is he celebrated Stalins birthday and denying the holocaust appropriate?
 
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You cannot tell much of a clip taken out of context. You’d need to listen to an entire podcast

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your constant negative dronings have made you so irrelevant here that most of us don;t even bother to read your posts anymore... ... (except by accident like this time... :rolleyes:). ......... so why should we bother to read an article or listen to a podcast you post or link to?......🤨

when you can;t acknowledge the things that are good - nobody cares to hear to about the things you think are bad..... even if we might agree those things are bad as well.....
 
your constant negative dronings have made you so irrelevant here that most of us don;t even bother to read your posts anymore... ... (except by accident like this time... :rolleyes:). ......... so why should we bother to read an article or listen to a podcast you post or link to?......🤨

when you can;t acknowledge the things that are good - nobody cares to hear to about the things you think are bad..... even if we might agree those things are bad as well.....
i don’t have time to do homework.

What things have I not acknowledge that are good?
 
Maybe Nick should pick a better adjective when describing Hitler and Stalin. I don’t think “great” is probably the best choice of words. It gives the appearance of dog whistling to certain group of people, but I’m pretty sure Nick already knows this. 😉
I don’t know maybe but I don’t get that when I listen to him. But I’ll admit I’m not the sharpest tool in the shed.
 
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