Pete Rose - Vote Him In!!!

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ALAYMAN said:
haha, the “put ‘em in right field” thing became less of an option for coaches as a place to hide players the further up the chain of game strategy and development that you went. That usually only worked for a coach to hide the unskilled player through junior high.
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You’re exactly right. 9th grade was the end of my baseball career 😬
 
ALAYMAN said:
I don’t know if you are aware of the state of youth sports now, or if it is like this in your area, but what we typically know in “rec league” lawsports, where every kid in the community is invited to come and play for the team(s) is a slightly dying breed these days, caused by specialized travel teams where the best players in a community are poached to field a team that is akin to the post-season rec league “all stars”. In turn, one of the side effects is that kids are forced to choose a sport to specialize in at a younger and younger age. There are several toxic results from this phenomenon. Parents who think that their kid is going to get a D1 college scholarship because they start at three years old taking Junior and Suzy to a special sports trainer, and other similar idiocy. Read more here…

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I’m very familiar with sports these days. I’m currently taking a break from coaching, but I coached volleyball for a decade. I also had my daughter involved in both rec league and club volleyball. She ended up leaning towards golf, so right now that’s where we’re at.

I was competitively involved with tennis as a kid. But lessons, tournaments and traveling gets expensive fast, and there’s no team to defray the costs like with baseball, basketball, etc. My dad just couldn’t swing it with other kids to feed and a stay-home mom. Of course in hindsight, regardless of the variety of sports I played, I wasn’t going pro even under the best of circumstances. I’m under 6 ft tall, and even golfers and tennis players these days tend to be 6+ ft, and certainly in baseball and basketball, you’d better be a big boy, or else have talent that’s 1 in a million people to compensate.
 
ALAYMAN said:
By “go back” do you mean the runner returns to first base by sliding back in after he has over-ran it?
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No, because the batter is allowed to run through first base on a one-base hit. If he beats the baseman to the bag, he's safe.

I mean situations where a runner fails to take second and has to return to first, like an attempted steal or double.
 
Ransom said:
No, because the batter is allowed to run through first base on a one-base hit. If he beats the baseman to the bag, he's safe.

I mean situations where a runner fails to take second and has to return to first, like an attempted steal or double.
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No, the runner cannot “run through” in your scenario.
 
Ransom said:
"A batter-runner cannot be tagged out after overrunning or oversliding first base if he returns immediately to the base." Rule 5.09(b)(4)
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Not the batter-runner, you’re asking about a runner trying to steal second base, then returning to first base. That’s how I understood your question.
 
Huk said:
Not the batter-runner, you’re asking about a runner trying to steal second base, then returning to first base. That’s how I understood your question.
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Correct, a runner returning to first base after failing to reach second can't overrun or overslide the base without risking getting tagged out. The batter-runner may. Hence the debate over the need to slide into first.
 
Huk said:
I’m very familiar with sports these days. I’m currently taking a break from coaching, but I coached volleyball for a decade. I also had my daughter involved in both rec league and club volleyball. She ended up leaning towards golf, so right now that’s where we’re at.

I was competitively involved with tennis as a kid. But lessons, tournaments and traveling gets expensive fast, and there’s no team to defray the costs like with baseball, basketball, etc. My dad just couldn’t swing it with other kids to feed and a stay-home mom. Of course in hindsight, regardless of the variety of sports I played, I wasn’t going pro even under the best of circumstances. I’m under 6 ft tall, and even golfers and tennis players these days tend to be 6+ ft, and certainly in baseball and basketball, you’d better be a big boy, or else have talent that’s 1 in a million people to compensate.
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i still teach traditional archery.... which actually becomes more like coaching after they have learned the basics... ..and it only gets expensive if they don;t learn to make their own arrows - which i am always happy to teach them how to do... .. ...students to archery usually come sporadically depending on whether a popular movie features archery.. and with what age group it ends up being popular.... thankfully height is not much of a factor in being a good archer... i;m under 5 feet tall...

unfortunately not many who start traditional archery stay with it... the lure of the knobs, gadgets and cams on compound bows usually grabs them quick.... plus that and the fact compound archery is many times easier than traditional archery.... .in fact they have made compound bows to a point now where very little skill is required at all.... and very little strength too.... .....my dad says compound bows did for archery what 2nd generation scuba gear did for diving.... it took over 90% of the skill and conditioning right out of both disciplines that was previously required.. and made it so any idiot could survive submerged under water or hit a target down range with an arrow...

but to be good at either one of them without all the modern technology... or pushing on to the next level.... or to even survive if some of the modern technology in diving fails... requires the conditioning - training - and mental skills/talent equivalent to the big boys you mentioned.... ..i didn;t get as far as i wanted to go.... i was hoping years ago to one day shoot a 70+ pound bow... but hit a peak and maxed out at just over 60 pounds.... i think if i had started as a child with it i might have been able to do it.... but i am happy with what i can do....
 
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aleshanee said:
i still teach traditional archery.... which actually becomes more like coaching after they have learned the basics... ..and it only gets expensive if they don;t learn to make their own arrows - which i am always happy to teach them how to do... .. ...students to archery usually come sporadically depending on whether a popular movie features archery.. and with what age group it ends up being popular.... thankfully height is not much of a factor in being a good archer... i;m under 5 feet tall...

unfortunately not many who start traditional archery stay with it... the lure of the knobs, gadgets and cams on compound bows usually grabs them quick.... plus that and the fact compound archery is many times easier than traditional archery.... .in fact they have made compound bows to a point now where very little skill is required at all.... and very little strength too.... .....my dad says compound bows did for archery what 2nd generation scuba gear did for diving.... it took over 90% of the skill and conditioning right out of both disciplines that was previously required.. and made it so any idiot could survive submerged under water or hit a target down range with an arrow...

but to be good at either one of them without all the modern technology... or pushing on to the next level.... or to even survive if some of the modern technology in diving fails... requires the conditioning - training - and mental skills/talent equivalent to the big boys you mentioned.... ..i didn;t get as far as i wanted to go.... i was hoping years ago to one day shoot a 70+ pound bow... but hit a peak and maxed out at just over 60 pounds.... i think if i had started as a child with it i might have been able to do it.... but i am happy with what i can do....
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More importantly than skill, scores, etc, is enjoyment. When I was younger, I’d get obsessed with my golf score. These days, I just enjoy being outdoors and getting a little sunshine and exercise, and if I don’t break 100, who cares. The other sports I used to play are for the young(er), so other than a game of Horse, I’m not running up and down a basketball court or chasing fly balls in the outfield.
 
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