I agree. I’ve been lifting for thirty years and have always been “natty,” but I’ve seen plenty of guys who are on the juice. When I was younger, I did the protein supplements and creatine for a while, but I got off both when my labs started getting out of whack and just stick with plain nutritional planning from my daily foods now.I’ve worked out for 25 years eaten clear and I’ve come to the conclusion that physique comes by genetics and steroids.
You still need to work hard. But that body is pure genetics and steroids.