Sigh

Tarheel Baptist said:
Two things I am sure of:
1. ICE agents are trying to do their jobs and have overstepped their bounds. In this climate they are under a huge spotlight so everything they do is magnified. Christy Noem is inept and should have been fired 2 mishaps ago. At this point ‘allegedly’ is the word of every day and who knows?

2. Sub did not post this thread with a ‘sigh’ but with his usual obsessive compulsive “Trump is responsible for all wrongs” disorder.
Hallelujah!
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According to DHS and ICE reports, over 1,000 undocumented immigrants have been arrested in Minnesota since Operation Metro Surge began in early January 2026, focusing on those with criminal records like murder and child rape. Other sources estimate up to 2,400, noting some non-criminal cases. ~ Grok

Shouldn't the title of this thread be "Hallelujah!"?!
 
biscuit1953 said:
He is just as dishonest as you were when you accused me of making up a quote by Sub and then when I proved it was true you still didn’t have the integrity to apologize for it.
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Speaking of dishonesty, I’ve now pointed out no fewer than five times that you keep attributing Jimmy Carter material to @subllibrm that I posted. It is no longer an accident or oversight. You, sir, prevaricate like a professional.
 
DrHuk&Duck said:
Speaking of dishonesty, I’ve now pointed out no fewer than five times that you keep attributing Jimmy Carter material to @subllibrm that I posted. It is no longer an accident or oversight. You, sir, prevaricate like a professional.
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abcaines​

Where's the biblically righteous candidate we all want? Why isn't he on the ballot?

Also... Name me ONE presidential candidate who was "biblically righteous".


DrHuk&Duck said:

Jimmy Carter is the only one I know of in recent American history.

subllibrm​

“He was clear and honest about his faith.”

In the Donald Trump thread. Post 185. You are a liar. Will you apologize?
 
DrHuk&Duck said:
Speaking of dishonesty, I’ve now pointed out no fewer than five times that you keep attributing Jimmy Carter material to @subllibrm that I posted. It is no longer an accident or oversight. You, sir, prevaricate like a professional.
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Give the poor guy a break. He's misrepresented people so many times he has trouble keeping his story straight and is forced to deflect blame to the misrepresentees.
 
biscuit1953 said:

abcaines​

Where's the biblically righteous candidate we all want? Why isn't he on the ballot?

Also... Name me ONE presidential candidate who was "biblically righteous".


DrHuk&Duck said:

Jimmy Carter is the only one I know of in recent American history.

subllibrm​

“He was clear and honest about his faith.”

In the Donald Trump thread. Post 185. You are a liar. Will you apologize?
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He was clear and honest about his faith. Maybe you think Carter’s faith was misguided or doesn’t mesh with your interpretation of the Scriptures, but he was clear and honest in his interpretation of such. However, that’s the only statement @subllibrm made about Carter. All of the other statements either I made or you’re just inventing. Heck, he even said he was never a Carter supporter and he didn’t even vote for the man, but yet week after week you keep attributing all types of Carter propaganda his way. So no, I won’t be apologizing to a liar of the first degree, or just an old guy with early onset dementia.
 
Ransom said:
Give the poor guy a break. He's misrepresented people so many times he has trouble keeping his story straight and is forced to deflect blame to the misrepresentees.
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I think he has dementia.
 
ha ha.... i was wondering how long it would take for ekk to show up and drag israel into this thread....... 😆.......... does anybody remember the good old days of the fff?..... back when i was considered the forums liberal?.... and 9 out of 10 threads devolved into an argument over calvinism?......:rolleyes:. .... my - how things change....🙃....
 
voicecrying said:
So they have no right to detain non-runners that do not provide papers?
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no.... they can still detain both... on the prinicple of probable cause.... anybody who runs at the sight of ice/dhs is probably an illegal alien..... anybody who stands still or does not run is probably a well disciplined illegal alien..... ;) .. (--apologies to full metal jacket)

besides.... if dhs/ice agents are going to a jobsite to look for illegals... it is probably because they received information that the construction company owner had hired illegals.... and since hiring illegals is also illegal the job foreman on site is not likely to be cooperative or open to answering questions if illegals are indeed there - in such a case - and according to the way both state and federal goverments have been operating for several decades now - anyone working there could be considered a legitimate suspect - 🤨

of course it is the right of any law abiding citizen to stand there and say nothing... thus forcing the government to prove them guilty rather than using that opportunity to prove themselves innocent... ..but we have all seen how that turns out when dealing with the kind of government and legal system we have in the modern age..(😖 <-- innocent citizen who just saw his legal fees after hiring a lawyer)

and i still have to wonder why those choosing to raise objections to trump now - did not object to this kind of thing when it has been going on under multiple presidents for as long as any of us can remember....
 
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And for the record, I opposed the requirement of COVID vaccination papers as well. Equating not wanting ICE to be able to detain people without papers without probable cause to hating of Trump is unfounded. :)
 
aleshanee said:
ha ha.... i was wondering how long it would take for ekk to show up and drag israel into this thread....... 😆.......... does anybody remember the good old days of the fff?..... back when i was considered the forums liberal?.... and 9 out of 10 threads devolved into an argument over calvinism?......:rolleyes:. .... my - how things change....🙃....
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I'll just keep chipping away at the idols here.

You'll thank me eventually. 😁
 
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voicecrying said:
I thought we were talking about ICE going into places of business and demanding papers.
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Construction sites. This is my domain.

Good thing they are being raided...
.... working for far less than prevailing wages (slavery level)
... poor workmanship
... drug culture on sites
 
voicecrying said:
And for the record, I opposed the requirement of COVID vaccination papers as well. Equating not wanting ICE to be able to detain people without papers without probable cause to hating of Trump is unfounded. :)
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Covid vaccination papers is not the same as the requirement to provide ID when there is probable cause or reasonable suspicion (which differs from state to state)
 
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