The Free Will Challenge

AverageJoe said:
I'm going to be blunt, and probably a bit coarse here....but, this idiot has been a jackass from the first day he got here. He'll try to excuse himself because he's a "Marine." Couldn't prove it by me. I know many Marines, and I've never met one as rude as he is.
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If he actually served as a Marine, he needs to get back to the training he received with the Corps. Marines do not just slander their enemies with innuendo and make scurrilous accusations that may or may not be true! They MAKE NO ASSUMPTIONS WHATSOEVER! They diligently study the enemies tactics, who they are, where they fight, why they fight, and how they fight. He learns their strengths and weaknesses in order to be better prepared to defeat this enemy!

Seems to me some things that could and should be implemented in this spiritual warfare we are waging!
 
Ransom said:
A command is not a factual claim. It has no truth value. By definition, God can't be a liar for commanding something. You nitwit.
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Try to use that space between your ears instead of just making useless noise. God commanded Adam to not eat off of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil so if God predetermined Adam to disobey Him then God lied to Adam by commanding him not to eat off of that tree.Adam made the choice to disobey God. God did not ordain Adam to disobey Him.
 
Baptist Renegade said:
If he actually served as a Marine, he needs to get back to the training he received with the Corps. Marines do not just slander their enemies with innuendo and make scurrilous accusations that may or may not be true! They MAKE NO ASSUMPTIONS WHATSOEVER! They diligently study the enemies tactics, who they are, where they fight, why they fight, and how they fight. He learns their strengths and weaknesses in order to be better prepared to defeat this enemy!

Seems to me some things that could and should be implemented in this spiritual warfare we are waging!
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Marines do not worry about slandering their enemies on the battle field we as a rule try our best to smoke check them. I could as easily say if you actually serve God see how that works ?
 
Baptist Renegade said:
They diligently study the enemies tactics, who they are, where they fight, why they fight, and how they fight. He learns their strengths and weaknesses in order to be better prepared to defeat this enemy!
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Which is why Pencilneck fails to persuade. Every one of his arguments is a straw man.
Leatherneck0311 said:
No where in scripture does it say God believes or repents for anyone.
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And no Calvinist believes that.
Leatherneck0311 said:
If God told Adam and Eve to not do something while all all along God determined for them to do what He told them not to do would make God dishonest and a liar , and He isn’t either.
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And no Calvinist believes that. Adam sinned of his own volition, not because God programmed him to.
Leatherneck0311 said:
Adam did not disobey God He followed his programming, which would Mean God broke His own command not Adam.
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And no Calvinist believes that. God commanded Adam, not himself.

This is the state that Pencilneck lives in. He makes up Calvinists in his imagination and gets mad at them.
 
Leatherneck0311 said:
God lied to Adam by commanding him not to eat off of that tree.
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You do not lie by commanding. Nor do you tell the truth. It's an instruction, not a truth claim.

To say "God lied when he commanded Adam" is to say literal nonsense.

Get that through your head, you numpty.

Don't make me move onto another letter to insult you when I run out of N's.
 
Ransom said:
Which is why Pencilneck fails to persuade. Every one of his arguments is a straw man.

And no Calvinist believes that.

And no Calvinist believes that. Adam sinned of his own volition, not because God programmed him to.
And no Calvinist believes that. God commanded Adam, not himself.

This is the state that Pencilneck lives in. He makes up Calvinists in his imagination and gets mad at them.
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I have had Calvinist tell me nothing happens that God did not preordain so you disagree with the majority of Calvinist that’s good.
 
Ransom said:
You do not lie by commanding. Nor do you tell the truth. It's an instruction, not a truth claim.

To say "God lied when he commanded Adam" is to say literal nonsense.

Get that through your head, you numpty.

Don't make me move onto another letter to insult you when I run out of N's.
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God commanded Adam to not eat off a certain tree so if God preordained Adam to eat off of that tree God would be a duplicitous liar, and He isn’t. For the simple minded : God giving a command that He preordained to be broken means God would have been dishonest, and He isn’t.
 
Leatherneck0311 said:
How would you have any clue what real Marines do or don’t do ? Have you ever served in the Corps ?
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I served in the Navy and had many friends serving in the Corps. Many I served in ministry with. I am sure they have "Crayon Eaters" like any other branch of the military. Perhaps you are one of their "Poster Children?"
 
Baptist Renegade said:
I served in the Navy and had many friends serving in the Corps. Many I served in ministry with. I am sure they have "Crayon Eaters" like any other branch of the military. Perhaps you are one of their "Poster Children?"
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Lol, glad to have sailed on the USS Tulare when I got pulled out of Nam. They were a great bunch of people. I doubt seriously you ever served in the Navy the swabbies I knew weren’t sensitive cry babies.
 
Leatherneck0311 said:
God commanded Adam to not eat off a certain tree so if God preordained Adam to eat off of that tree God would be a duplicitous liar, and He isn’t.
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I've already told you twice. Commands aren't true or false. Get that through your crayon-eating head, you ninny.
 
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