What SmellinCoffee says is true

Sockie or not, April Fool's or not, I totally believe HAC was bugged.
 
SwampHag said:
Sockie or not, April Fool's or not, I totally believe HAC was bugged.
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Of course you do, dear.  :)
 
Some of these comments really get me?

Courage??  Are you really scared??  Finally someone to back up Smellin's bug story and he is scared.

Look pal, I don't know who you are but when the staff of your college shows you pictures of your home and family and threaten them then yes you are scared. There's a reason I sleep with several loaded guns nearby.

Smellin Coffee said:
ScottJohnson said:
Hello to all. I am a new poster to this forum. I attended Hyles Anderson back in the 80's. I have been reading with interest the stories for some time. But when I saw the comment about a work area being bugged I just had to reply. It's true. Totally true. I know. I saw it. Maybe if I can find the courage to tell about it I will.
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Thanks, Scott.

In essence, it doesn't matter to me if what happened is believed or not. I and a couple others know the truth (I showed the bug to a friend before it got removed) so that is all that matters to me. People have the right to believe or disbelieve me, I've got no problem either way.

Welcome to the forum!
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My friend I believe you. We probably know each other.
 
This needs to be a movie. 
 
Maybe the KGB did have JH on the list.
 
This thread actually reminds me of John Grisham's book "The Firm". A lawyer joins a law firm in Memphis and finds out that it is actually mob owned and they had an elaborate surveillance system that took an entire floor. I wonder if Grisham was a member of fbc?
 
BALAAM said:
This thread actually reminds me of John Grisham's book "The Firm". A lawyer joins a law firm in Memphis and finds out that it is actually mob owned and they had an elaborate surveillance system that took an entire floor. I wonder if Grisham was a member of fbc?
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I doubt Hammond would have him...he's Southern Baptist.  ;D
 
Smellin Coffee said:
BALAAM said:
This thread actually reminds me of John Grisham's book "The Firm". A lawyer joins a law firm in Memphis and finds out that it is actually mob owned and they had an elaborate surveillance system that took an entire floor. I wonder if Grisham was a member of fbc?
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I doubt Hammond would have him...he's Southern Baptist.. ;D
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You disappoint me on that comment brother,... You KNOW if they're enough of a big deal it would not have mattered in those days lol
 
I'll just wait with a scant eye at this one.  We'll all know soon enough who tells truth, who lies and who was a paranoid schizo.
 
Come on hacker nation, many of you have told security stories over the years. We have heard stories of you guys knowing all & seeing all.

Do you mean to tell me none of you have ever been in that basement for any reason. None of you have seen someone go in or out of there. No one has ever seen boxes of 1/2" or 1" reel to reel tapes being moved or disposed of.  No stories from anyone about whats down there.

Come on those of you who have friends who were former security lets confirm the viability of  this far fetched story.
 
sword said:
Come on hacker nation, many of you have told security stories over the years. We have heard stories of you guys knowing all & seeing all.

Do you mean to tell me none of you have ever been in that basement for any reason. None of you have seen someone go in or out of there. No one has ever seen boxes of 1/2" or 1" reel to reel tapes being moved or disposed of.  No stories from anyone about whats down there.

Come on those of you who have friends who were former security lets confirm the viability of  this far fetched story.
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I must admit, I found it hard to stop reading the post.
 
ScottJohnson said:
Some of these comments really get me?

Courage??  Are you really scared??  Finally someone to back up Smellin's bug story and he is scared.

Look pal, I don't know who you are but when the staff of your college shows you pictures of your home and family and threaten them then yes you are scared. There's a reason I sleep with several loaded guns nearby.

Smellin Coffee said:
ScottJohnson said:
Hello to all. I am a new poster to this forum. I attended Hyles Anderson back in the 80's. I have been reading with interest the stories for some time. But when I saw the comment about a work area being bugged I just had to reply. It's true. Totally true. I know. I saw it. Maybe if I can find the courage to tell about it I will.
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Thanks, Scott.

In essence, it doesn't matter to me if what happened is believed or not. I and a couple others know the truth (I showed the bug to a friend before it got removed) so that is all that matters to me. People have the right to believe or disbelieve me, I've got no problem either way.

Welcome to the forum!
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My friend I believe you. We probably know each other.
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Scott,

You have to realize the day you posted this: April Fools Day. Due to the timing of the post and the fact that you joined that same day, that would cast shadow of doubt on your post. Your post contained a lot of recognition to some of us which makes the story somewhat believable to those of us who already got a quick peek behind the curtain. If this were an April Fools joke, kudos on the piece, weaving plausible possibilities to make it feel somewhat authentic. If this were not an April Fools joke and you are being sincere (which I choose to hold to until otherwise revealed), it's good that you flushed it out so you can deal with your emotions and fear with someone who can relate.

I've been open about who I am, who my parents are and have friendships, both in cyberspace as well as personal with people on this forum. People who know me. People who would vouch for my credibility. With that, there is nothing to fear from Hammond at this point. Whatever threats you may have been given in the past are long gone. Over the last couple of decades, no physical harm has been done to Nischik or Glover (that I am aware of, anyway) and I would think that by now, they would be the initial targets.

So if you are sincere, even though some will not believe your story, some of us will and in sharing, can try to help you come out of your state of fear. If it was a joke, I have to give you props on a wonderful piece.

 
Surely someone has a story about a spacecraft that landed on the island of Hacker Lake.  From what I understand they also knew everything that was going on in every part of the building.
 
Wait - there used to be a POOL in the Miller building?! That would explain the aqua-colored tiles in the (creepy, old) ladies room.

As the daughter of one of the PA room men, I have to wonder who was doing all this clandestine recording, listening and transcribing what had to have been a ridiculous number of conversations.  It must've taken quite a staff, and a seriously stealthy one, at that.

One thing I agree with 100% - that mezzanine bathroom DID have a horrible smell.  I always assumed it was a plumbing issue but now... (cue Twilight Zone theme song).

All joking aside, I have sympathy for anyone that lives in fear or pain, and wish them peace. 
 
Least of These said:
As the daughter of one of the PA room men, I have to wonder who was doing all this clandestine recording, listening and transcribing what had to have been a ridiculous number of conversations.  It must've taken quite a staff, and a seriously stealthy one, at that.
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Quite a QUIET staff!!!  The number of people that would have had to be involved would be large, I think.  And really, can a large number of people keep 'this type' of secret for any length of time?

Today is April 2.
 
Smellin Coffee said:
ScottJohnson said:
Some of these comments really get me?

Courage??  Are you really scared??  Finally someone to back up Smellin's bug story and he is scared.

Look pal, I don't know who you are but when the staff of your college shows you pictures of your home and family and threaten them then yes you are scared. There's a reason I sleep with several loaded guns nearby.

Smellin Coffee said:
ScottJohnson said:
Hello to all. I am a new poster to this forum. I attended Hyles Anderson back in the 80's. I have been reading with interest the stories for some time. But when I saw the comment about a work area being bugged I just had to reply. It's true. Totally true. I know. I saw it. Maybe if I can find the courage to tell about it I will.
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Thanks, Scott.

In essence, it doesn't matter to me if what happened is believed or not. I and a couple others know the truth (I showed the bug to a friend before it got removed) so that is all that matters to me. People have the right to believe or disbelieve me, I've got no problem either way.

Welcome to the forum!
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My friend I believe you. We probably know each other.
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Scott,

You have to realize the day you posted this: April Fools Day. Due to the timing of the post and the fact that you joined that same day, that would cast shadow of doubt on your post. Your post contained a lot of recognition to some of us which makes the story somewhat believable to those of us who already got a quick peek behind the curtain. If this were an April Fools joke, kudos on the piece, weaving plausible possibilities to make it feel somewhat authentic. If this were not an April Fools joke and you are being sincere (which I choose to hold to until otherwise revealed), it's good that you flushed it out so you can deal with your emotions and fear with someone who can relate.

I've been open about who I am, who my parents are and have friendships, both in cyberspace as well as personal with people on this forum. People who know me. People who would vouch for my credibility. With that, there is nothing to fear from Hammond at this point. Whatever threats you may have been given in the past are long gone. Over the last couple of decades, no physical harm has been done to Nischik or Glover (that I am aware of, anyway) and I would think that by now, they would be the initial targets.

So if you are sincere, even though some will not believe your story, some of us will and in sharing, can try to help you come out of your state of fear. If it was a joke, I have to give you props on a wonderful piece.
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I suppose I should answer some of the questions that I raised yesterday. It is very hard for me to do so. After I shared my story yesterday I had a major panic attack and had to call my therapist who helped me through the day. As the panic went don I felt a sense of relief. No one came to my house, no one threatened me. It actually felt good.

I can only post at certain times of the day. My job has requirements that make unlimted internet access impossible. I suppose I should have waited till today, April 2, to tell my story, but my therapist said we had made a breakthrough and I should share my story. It probably seems odd to some that this would come on April 1. I suppose I found a kinship with Smellincoffee. Somebody had a story somewhat like mine. If it was my old bosses in security who tried to bug his dad then I believe him. The setup at BC sounds like something those guys would do.

I'll try to explain a little more what I saw in the secret room. My first reaction was shock. My next feeling was to get out of there quickly. The electrical boxes looked a lot like old telephone switchboards. A lot of wires came up from the floor and each wire was fed into the machine. There were knobs and dials at the top. I think that each station received sound from a different part of the college, church and HB. Where the wires came from I don't know. A main wire ran from the machine to the reel-to-reel machines. They were reel-to-reel machines. There were boxes of tapes laying next to each table. How many times have I wished I had taken some with me.

Perhaps I will share more later about how I have tried to recover. This is the hardest thing I have done in a long time, so please be patient with me.

 
ScottJohnson said:
I suppose I should answer some of the questions that I raised yesterday. It is very hard for me to do so. After I shared my story yesterday I had a major panic attack and had to call my therapist who helped me through the day. As the panic went don I felt a sense of relief. No one came to my house, no one threatened me. It actually felt good.

I can only post at certain times of the day. My job has requirements that make unlimted internet access impossible. I suppose I should have waited till today, April 2, to tell my story, but my therapist said we had made a breakthrough and I should share my story. It probably seems odd to some that this would come on April 1. I suppose I found a kinship with Smellincoffee. Somebody had a story somewhat like mine. If it was my old bosses in security who tried to bug his dad then I believe him. The setup at BC sounds like something those guys would do.

I'll try to explain a little more what I saw in the secret room. My first reaction was shock. My next feeling was to get out of there quickly. The electrical boxes looked a lot like old telephone switchboards. A lot of wires came up from the floor and each wire was fed into the machine. There were knobs and dials at the top. I think that each station received sound from a different part of the college, church and HB. Where the wires came from I don't know. A main wire ran from the machine to the reel-to-reel machines. They were reel-to-reel machines. There were boxes of tapes laying next to each table. How many times have I wished I had taken some with me.

Perhaps I will share more later about how I have tried to recover. This is the hardest thing I have done in a long time, so please be patient with me.
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Thanks for following up, Scott. You might get some backlash on the forum because you made it public but there really is nothing to fear from Hammond. If anybody had reason to be attacked, I'm sure I was on the list as a relative of mine was the editor for Glover's book. :) During the 80s when I went back to the campus to pick up my yearbook from the previous year after graduation, I had to have a security guard escort me even though my parents were still on staff. About 10 years ago, I needed to get my transcripts and I was able to roam the halls with no issues, once I signed in at the front lobby. I never felt threatened. I felt judged by a couple who knew me, yes, but not threatened.

Glad to see you are getting counseling. If the therapist is a good one, you will probably work through various stages of grief. In the end, it should culminate in forgiving those who created that fear inside you. It might take years but that is the ultimate goal.

Pray for Hammond. Pray for those who hurt you. Pray for those who have been hurt. Pray for those who look back on history and learn from the crap we went through. Hang in there and share as you feel somewhat comfortable. You don't have to reply to every question so peel back the layers a little at a time as you are able.

God bless you!

Dan

 
ScottJohnson said:
Perhaps I will share more later about how I have tried to recover. This is the hardest thing I have done in a long time, so please be patient with me.
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Just can't jump in with both feet just yet....
 
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