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I would hope that anyone who watched the video that Ransom posted, even folks who do not know much about Nick Fuentes, would conclude that Nick Fuentes is a repulsive thug and weirdo whose opinions and rants should not be taken seriously. Christians and conservatives should not be promoting or defending him, or associating with him in any way. If the fundamentalist principle of "separation" means anything at all, it surely must mean that we should separate from Nick Fuentes and his ilk.
Well, it sounds like you are still IFB? If so, then it explains you listening to a clip and accepting what is said instead of taking the entire podcast as a whole.

Just like you IFB will take one verse and build whatever you want it to say. In my opinion you are doing the same here.
 
There are 24 hours in the day. A third of that I spend sleeping; the remainder us spent primarily on productive pursuits, with a few hours left over for recreation.

Here is how I spend those recreation hours, currently:

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Good stuff, recommended.

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Bit weird but worth finishing.

Now, with free time being such a limited resource, can you give a succinct and persuasive reason why I should give some of O'Brian's and Ishiguro's up to watch a full podcast of your terminally online gay Mexican groyper neo-Nazi cult leader?

No?

I thought not. So in the interests of redeeming my time for more redeeming purposes, I'll continue to judge Fuentes by the clips. As I mentioned a few days ago, you can judge a book by its cover: it tells you what the book is about and what some people think of it.
You are very productive that’s awesome.

You can’t judge a book by its cover. I’ve learned this since leaving the IFB.

But hey, this is America and you have the right to do so.

There is no way of knowing what someone believes by a clip.

I was hearing that he was a racist and so I decided to listen to his podcast as a whole NOT CLIPS! I came to the conclusion that he is not a racist. At least from my perspective.
 
When public discourse begins to happen regarding despicable acts, a nation is doomed.
Public discourse means that what was once a despicable social experiment has become normalized enough to discuss its complete acceptance in society.
That is exactly what has happened in our country, and a multitude of young people have accepted it.
There is no coming back from that except for a Sodom and Gomorrah experience.
 
At least from my perspective.

Now that I've seen your perspective, you will understand why I don't give it much credibility.

And since you couldn't argue that Fuentes is worth my time, I'll conclude that he is not. Thank you for your participation, such as it was.
 
Now that I've seen your perspective, you will understand why I don't give it much credibility.

And since you couldn't argue that Fuentes is worth my time, I'll conclude that he is not. Thank you for your participation, such as it was.
Well, I guess you can continue to get ur view of someone by watching clips just like the IFB does with scripture and making it say whatever you want.

Boy, criticize IFB when you actually operate exactly like them when someone disagrees with you.
 
Well, I guess you can continue to get ur view of someone by watching clips just like the IFB does with scripture and making it say whatever you want.

Fuentes isn't Scripture, and there's nothing at stake if I dismiss the little Team Hitler fairy out of hand. Fuentes is an influencer with about as much relevance to me as a tranny who YouTubes makeup tips .
 
I said repentance for following the ideology of the troll is in order, and this guy, expressing sentiments pretty close to mine, agrees...


 
I said repentance for following the ideology of the troll is in order, and this guy, expressing sentiments pretty close to mine, agrees...


Republican politicians are not going in the direction of Christ.

I believe in my first post I said, I don’t agree with everything he says.

What I do subscribe to is that, I believe his message is, America First.

I agree that my King is Jesus first not America.

Nick is a Catholic. If I had to guess he’s not born again.

My hope is not in our government but in Christ and Christ alone.
 
So, I posted a short video from Nick Freitas and everyone starts talking about Nick Fuentes. I never heard of Fuentes until today but from what I looked up, I'm with @Ransom in saying he doesn't deserve any attention from me.

Did you all see Freitas and automatically connect with Fuentes? Two very different individuals.
 
Fuentes isn't Scripture, and there's nothing at stake if I dismiss the little Team Hitler fairy out of hand. Fuentes is an influencer with about as much relevance to me as a tranny who YouTubes makeup tips .
No he isn’t scripture you are correct. But a clip takes what he says as a whole out of context.

Yeah he’s so irrelevant that Alayman posted someone I’ve never heard of talking about him. Not to mention almost everyone everywhere is talking about him including Mark Lavin the man that puts other countries first before America.
 
So, I posted a short video from Nick Freitas and everyone starts talking about Nick Fuentes. I never heard of Fuentes until today but from what I looked up, I'm with @Ransom in saying he doesn't deserve any attention from me.

Did you all see Freitas and automatically connect with Fuentes? Two very different individuals.
😂 yes it did get things poppin around here.
 
They said all these things about Trump.

Nick does troll and a very good one at that. I’d put him up there with Trump. Trump trolls and people take his trolling and accuse him of whatever and they don’t even realize it just like Nick does.
 
So, I posted a short video from Nick Freitas and everyone starts talking about Nick Fuentes. I never heard of Fuentes until today but from what I looked up, I'm with @Ransom in saying he doesn't deserve any attention from me.

Did you all see Freitas and automatically connect with Fuentes? Two very different individuals.
You posted Freitas (who I agree with) then the Fuentes stuff was immediately afterwards posted. I knew they were different in what was being said (though both are within the "conservative" political sphere). I commented on the Fuentes thing for several reasons.

Number one, Fuentes had a feud with Charlie Kirk, claiming that Kirk was essentially not far enough right , and that's what made me aware of Fuentes.

Secondly, not long ago I posted something about what a groyper was, which is a term associated with Fuentes that amounts to defining his groupies, and they are weird, weird, weird, weird.

Lastly, with our discussion here recently about what Christian nationalism is, and in that discussion you said you knew Doug Wilson, who wasn't far from you, and I think such theology is dangerous. It appears to me that we have a couple of people on this forum that come close to meeting that definition of Christian nationalist, whether they know it or not.
 
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Republican politicians are not going in the direction of Christ.

I believe in my first post I said, I don’t agree with everything he says.

What I do subscribe to is that, I believe his message is, America First.

I agree that my King is Jesus first not America.

Nick is a Catholic. If I had to guess he’s not born again.

My hope is not in our government but in Christ and Christ alone.
First of all, Fuentes is very unserious in his Howard Stern ideology, he's a troll and a grifter like Alex Jones. But he's even more dangerous in the fact that his schtick garners so much knuckle dragging support. No Christian should associate with his racism and other anti-Christian ideas, regardless of whatever politically expedient motive one might have in following him.
 
First of all, Fuentes is very unserious in his Howard Stern ideology, he's a troll and a grifter like Alex Jones. But he's even more dangerous in the fact that his schtick garners so much knuckle dragging support. No Christian should associate with his racism and other anti-Christian ideas, regardless of whatever politically expedient motive one might have in following him.
I sincerely mean this. I will take what you’re saying into consideration. And as I continue to listen to him I will keep in mind what you’ve said.
 
You posted Freitas (who I agree with) then the Fuentes stuff was immediately afterwards posted. I knew they were different in what was being said (though both are within the "conservative" political sphere). I commented on the Fuentes thing for several reasons.

Number one, Fuentes had a feud with Charlie Kirk, claiming that Kirk was essentially not far enough right , and that's what made me aware of Fuentes.

Secondly, not long ago I posted something about what a groyper was, which is a term associated with Fuentes that amounts to defining his groupies, and they are weird, weird, weird, weird.

Lastly, with our discussion here recently about what Christian nationalism is, and in that discussion you said you knew Doug Wilson, who wasn't far from you, and I think such theology is dangerous. It appears to me that we have a couple of people on this forum that come close to meeting that definition of Christian nationalist, whether they know it or not.
To be clear I do not believe that our country should be ruled by Christians that’s not America, that’s not freedom of religion. I do not believe that Christians should have a privileged place in America. I believe that churches should pay taxes. I believe that pastors should not be able to opt out of social security or opt out of Medicaid. You cannot legislate righteousness.
 
I'm so thankful that this Fuentes guy isn't running for president. The contortions needed to rationalize voting for him would be incredible.

The only thing that I can think that would make him acceptable would be to remind myself that I am not electing a pastor. 😎
 
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