Kenny Baldwin

[Bruh]

In all situations a Christian should have compassion for everyone involved mixed with a strong dose of judgement for the wrong doer. As a men we should want judgement and the compassion will have to come later. I am saddened by the pain such behaviour brings to the victim and their family and friends as well as the family and friends of the accused. They did nothing to bring this hurt on themselves. I am also conserned how such events hurt the cause of Christ. Be sure your sin will find you out is still in the book. "WHAT WAS HE THINKING" he had to know it would come out, it always does? We also need to create a culture where the victims feel comfortable seeking help when they are abused. Does anyone know the age of the boy. I somehow missed it in all the stories.

I have no compassion for the pervert. He should be put in prison and allow the harden criminals do what they will to him.

 

[sword]

Who here can testify before everyone that they never ever, under any circumstance or situation,
That they never, ever, could commit a sin like or akin to Kenny Baldwin's sin?

Not justifying Kenny's sin, he deserves to make little rocks out of the big rocks at the gray bar hotel.
He had dragged the name of our precious Lord Jesus Christ through the mud and hindered the testimony of Christ.
He never needs to preach again.
He's diabolical, vile, despicable and all kinds of other adjectives.
His victims are scarred for life and need our prayer.

But who here can testify before everyone that they NEVER, EVER, under ANY circumstances or situation could EVER commit a sin like or akin to Kenny Baldwin's sin?

I'm just asking!

I, with some confidence, can say I would never commit that sin, on the other hand we all have besetting sins that in the right circumatances we could easily commit. We must all be on guard 100% of the time. We must be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:. One weak moment and I believe we would be shocked what we could do. I strive to fear God and to walk with him and rely on him not myself.

James 1:14-15 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed. ;Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.​

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1 Timothy 6:9 ;But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition.​

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Ecclesiasticus 1:21 The fear of the Lord driveth away sins:​

Galatians 5 tells us to walk in the spirit and not give into the flesh.​

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[ALAYMAN]

I think in one of the points maybe 10or 11 he basically said what I said. And that is, basically the entire adult membership will know who you are.

I personally believe that there is no room for these kind of people in my community much less the church I attend.

If the church I attended allowed a pedophile to become a member I would no longer go to that church. And I would tell anyone that was interested in going to that church that they allow pedophiles to be members there.

Why? Because people need to know where they are bringing their family.

That would be your prerogative, but the safeguards in the article linked covered the notion of making congregants aware. People choose not to come to churches for a whole host of reasons, some more Biblically warranted than others. You seem more interested in vengeance than any Biblical solution.

 

[Tarheel Baptist]

Virginia pastor removed from ministry, charged with sending explicit photos to teen

A Virginia pastor has been removed from ministry duties after he was charged with repeatedly sending sexually explicit messages to a teenager, forcing Christian colleges to distance themselves from

www.christianpost.com

 

[illinoisguy]

The Rise and Fall of Kenny Baldwin | SHARPER IRON

sharperiron.org

"The idea that any of us could have fallen into the same sin as Kenny has come under intense scrutiny. IFB Pastor Stacey Shiflett, a sexual abuse survivor, responded to the suggestion that anyone could have committed the same sin as Kenny: 'Are you out of your stinking mind? I am so sick of this response.… He’s a pervert. He admitted to it. Can we just stop with this insanity—this perverted thinking that is enabling and perpetrating this garbage in our churches?'. . .

"We need to intentionally differentiate between God-given talents and spiritual gifts. The ability to think deeply (Ravi Zacharias; Steven Lawson), communicate effectively (Tony Evans; Joshua Harris), administrate efficiently (Bill Hybels; Jerry Falwell, Jr.), or write well (Philip Yancey; Jerry Jenkins) does not prove that a person is right with God. In fact, talents too often camouflage sins."

 

[Bruh]

The Rise and Fall of Kenny Baldwin | SHARPER IRON

sharperiron.org

"The idea that any of us could have fallen into the same sin as Kenny has come under intense scrutiny. IFB Pastor Stacey Shiflett, a sexual abuse survivor, responded to the suggestion that anyone could have committed the same sin as Kenny: 'Are you out of your stinking mind? I am so sick of this response.… He’s a pervert. He admitted to it. Can we just stop with this insanity—this perverted thinking that is enabling and perpetrating this garbage in our churches?'. . .

"We need to intentionally differentiate between God-given talents and spiritual gifts. The ability to think deeply (Ravi Zacharias; Steven Lawson), communicate effectively (Tony Evans; Joshua Harris), administrate efficiently (Bill Hybels; Jerry Falwell, Jr.), or write well (Philip Yancey; Jerry Jenkins) does not prove that a person is right with God. In fact, talents too often camouflage sins."

I would never send pictures like that to a teenage boy.

 

[Ransom]

I would never send pictures like that to a teenage boy.

Of course not. IFBs send them to underage girls.

 

[Ransom]

"We need to intentionally differentiate between God-given talents and spiritual gifts. The ability to think deeply (Ravi Zacharias; Steven Lawson), communicate effectively (Tony Evans; Joshua Harris), administrate efficiently (Bill Hybels; Jerry Falwell, Jr.), or write well (Philip Yancey; Jerry Jenkins) does not prove that a person is right with God. In fact, talents too often camouflage sins."

Kenny Baldwin: sexual misconduct.
Ravi Zacharias: sexual misconduct.
Steven Lawson: sexual misconduct.
Bill Hybels: sexual misconduct.
Jerry Falwell, Jr.: sexual misconduct.
Philip Yancey: sexual misconduct.
Joshua Harris: apostasy.
Jerry B. Jenkins: played poker.

While I strongly disapprove of gambling and recognize that it generally falls outside of evangelical approval, I think we can agree that entering a poker tournament isn't even in the same ballpark, morally speaking, as having an affair or sending explicit pictures to teenagers.

Tony Evans, too: he stepped down due to a confessed, though undisclosed, moral failure, which his church handled internally and apparently did not view as permanently disqualifying. Without knowing the details, that should settle the matter.

Remember that Jack Schaap once infamously screeched from the pulpit about teenage girls using their phones to sext boys--and then his own illicit affair with a teenager was revealed when someone inadvertently saw a text message from her on his phone. Shiflett's response smacks of "I thank thee that I am not like other men," more than a proper attitude of humility where his own sinful nature is concerned.

 

[Bruh]

Of course not. IFBs send them to underage girls.

Thank God I’m not IFB!!

 

[Ransom]

Thank God I’m not IFB!!

Then I wouldn't be so sure you won't be sexting teenage boys.

 

[Sherryh]

Pastor Shiflett was the only pastor to speak out against the abuse happening with the ladies on Let us Prey!!

 

[illinoisguy]

The story of a young man who survived sexual abuse. With heart-breaking details, scathing rebukes, and common sense (and biblical) solutions, this book is going to change your perspective on sexual abuse in the church. Whether you are a survivor of sexual abuse or a Christian looking for ways to defend the victims, expose the hypocrisy, and stop the cover-ups, this book is a must read!

 

[ALAYMAN]

…. Shiflett's response smacks of "I thank thee that I am not like other men," more than a proper attitude of humility where his own sinful nature is concerned.

Very insightful thoughts in the majority of your post, but what leads you to that conclusion about Shifflet from that short excerpt?

 

[Bruh]

Then I wouldn't be so sure you won't be sexting teenage boys.

I’m sure.

 

[Bruh]

I, with some confidence, can say I would never commit that sin, on the other hand we all have besetting sins that in the right circumatances we could easily commit. We must all be on guard 100% of the time. We must be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:. One weak moment and I believe we would be shocked what we could do. I strive to fear God and to walk with him and rely on him not myself.

James 1:14-15 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed. ;Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.​

​

1 Timothy 6:9 ;But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition.​

​

Ecclesiasticus 1:21 The fear of the Lord driveth away sins:​

Galatians 5 tells us to walk in the spirit and not give into the flesh.​

​

when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.​

Well, children are not my lust factor. Teen boys or teen girls I am not attracted to. Therefore, no lust to be drawn.

 

[Sherryh]

Very insightful thoughts in the majority of your post, but what leads you to that conclusion about Shifflet from that short excerpt

He is my face book friend and we have had communications about this subject. He spoke out when everyone was quite. That takes courage he has had some health challenges but has not stopped .

 

[Ransom]

Very insightful thoughts in the majority of your post, but what leads you to that conclusion about Shifflet from that short excerpt?

"Let anyone who thinks that he stands take heed lest he fall" (1 Cor. 10:12).

How can Shiflett know he will always be immune from tempation? He doesn't know what's coming in the future.Maybe it won't be young boys, but something else--and "at least I wasn't sexting teenagers" won't cut the muster.

 

[Bruh]

The Rise and Fall of Kenny Baldwin | SHARPER IRON

sharperiron.org

"The idea that any of us could have fallen into the same sin as Kenny has come under intense scrutiny. IFB Pastor Stacey Shiflett, a sexual abuse survivor, responded to the suggestion that anyone could have committed the same sin as Kenny: 'Are you out of your stinking mind? I am so sick of this response.… He’s a pervert. He admitted to it. Can we just stop with this insanity—this perverted thinking that is enabling and perpetrating this garbage in our churches?'. . .

"We need to intentionally differentiate between God-given talents and spiritual gifts. The ability to think deeply (Ravi Zacharias; Steven Lawson), communicate effectively (Tony Evans; Joshua Harris), administrate efficiently (Bill Hybels; Jerry Falwell, Jr.), or write well (Philip Yancey; Jerry Jenkins) does not prove that a person is right with God. In fact, talents too often camouflage sins."

"The idea that any of us could have fallen into the same sin as Kenny has come under intense scrutiny. IFB Pastor Stacey Shiflett, a sexual abuse survivor, responded to the suggestion that anyone could have committed the same sin as Kenny: 'Are you out of your stinking mind? I am so sick of this response.… He’s a pervert. He admitted to it. Can we just stop with this insanity—this perverted thinking that is enabling and perpetrating this garbage in our churches?'. . .

Makes sense to me. That’s why I raised my hand to @Starlifter post. No, under no circumstances would I sexually abuse a child.

 

[Bruh]

"Let anyone who thinks that he stands take heed lest he fall" (1 Cor. 10:12).

How can Shiflett know he will always be immune from tempation? He doesn't know what's coming in the future.Maybe it won't be young boys, but something else--and "at least I wasn't sexting teenagers" won't cut the muster.

He was talking specifically about the pervert Kenny. I didn’t see that he was talking about something like cheating on his wife with a consenting adult female.

 

[Ransom]

He was talking specifically about the pervert Kenny. I didn’t see that he was talking about something like cheating on his wife with a consenting adult female.

I addressed that, making your post redundant.

Maybe it won't be young boys, but something else