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In 2012, we drove by the Waco compound. It was raining so I asked my daughter to roll down her window and take pictures. Within a minute of driving away, a small truck came out of the compound and tailed our Suburban. It chased us for 5 miles until we got to the highway.

I forgot that our vehicle was identical to the FBI vehicles when Waco was burned.

They had a new building when we saw it.

Oh! To keep with the OP... I had a gun ;)
 
subllibrm said:
I would like to see an honest assessment that's not based on the approved talking points. The White House responded with terms like terrorist, brandishing, even assassination. Are those based on any evidence? If they were why has the president been backtracking on those claims? He either brandished the weapon or he didn't. All I asked was for folks to look at the videos in sequence. I also asked for some evidence that the gun was ever in his hand, visible to the officers.
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See my first post in this thread.
And in the meantime write your congressman or woman to complain.
 
FSSL said:
In 2012, we drove by the Waco compound. It was raining so I asked my daughter to roll down her window and take pictures. Within a minute of driving away, a small truck came out of the compound and tailed our Suburban. It chased us for 5 miles until we got to the highway.

I forgot that our vehicle was identical to the FBI vehicles when Waco was burned.

They had a new building when we saw it.

Oh! To keep with the OP... I had a gun ;)
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my sister drives that same kind of black chevy surburban.... except that hers is 4 wheel drive... . and she always has a gun too..... :) ... never been chased by anybody though... as far as i know...
 
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aleshanee said:
in both that case and the ruby ridge case many of the people involved should have been charged with murder..... .....janet reno was definitely responsible for what happened.....
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To be precise, many of the same FBI personnel were involved in both incidents, and they were both debacles for the feds, but Janet Reno had nothing to do with Ruby Ridge. That was on George Bush's watch, in August 1992, when William Sessions still directed the FBI.
 
Ransom said:
To be precise, many of the same FBI personnel were involved in both incidents, and they were both debacles for the feds, but Janet Reno had nothing to do with Ruby Ridge. That was on George Bush's watch, in August 1992, when William Sessions still directed the FBI.
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i did not know that.. ....it was a long time ago when i read an article about it... . ..they focused on the fbi mostly and their major fiacos ...including the atlanta bombing case...... i rmember plenty of mentions of janet reno in all of it but i don;t remember them mentioning william sessions... .... ... ....i read about all that around the same time the elian gonzales thing happened.... .
 
aleshanee said:
i did not know that.. ....it was a long time ago when i read an article about it... . ..they focused on the fbi mostly and their major fiacos ...including the atlanta bombing case...... i rmember plenty of mentions of janet reno in all of it but i don;t remember them mentioning william sessions...
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I misspoke a bit, so to clarify further: Janet Reno was the Attorney General during the Clinton administration, and Louis Freeh headed the FBI. William Barr, not Sessions, was Reno's predecessor in the Bush administration.

Because of its proximity to the 1992 presidential election, Ruby Ridge along with Waco contributed to the negative reputation of the Clinton-era FBI, even though Clinton had nothing to do with Ruby Ridge.

In both incidents, the criminals held to an apocalyptic worldview in which the government was persecuting them, which led to isolationism and criminal acts involving weapons. This got them on the radar of the FBI, who started putting them under surveillance, and this, in the accused's mind, justified their paranoia--which in turn intensified the Feds' concerns and led to poor operational decision-making and escalating mutual suspicion.

The same kind of feedback loop is forming around the anti-ICE protests.
 
Ransom said:
I misspoke a bit, so to clarify further: Janet Reno was the Attorney General during the Clinton administration, and Louis Freeh headed the FBI. William Barr, not Sessions, was Reno's predecessor in the Bush administration.

Because of its proximity to the 1992 presidential election, Ruby Ridge along with Waco contributed to the negative reputation of the Clinton-era FBI, even though Clinton had nothing to do with Ruby Ridge.

In both incidents, the criminals held to an apocalyptic worldview in which the government was persecuting them, which led to isolationism and criminal acts involving weapons. This got them on the radar of the FBI, who started putting them under surveillance, and this, in the accused's mind, justified their paranoia--which in turn intensified the Feds' concerns and led to poor operational decision-making and escalating mutual suspicion.

The same kind of feedback loop is forming around the anti-ICE protests.
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thanks for the additional info.... i know that in cults of that type - the cult leaders - like david koresh - purposefully kick the feedback loops to keep them going..... i see that also happening in minnesota with the irresponsible and dangerous rhetoric of both tim walz and jacob frey...... they and other democrat leaders constantly predict an apocalypse if trump is not stopped... ..and their advice on how to stop trump... and any operations he orders.. has frequently been "by any means necessary"...

i have to wonder if both good and pretti would still be alive today had walz and frey not been telling people of minnesota to actively confront and obstruct ice officers..... taking his gun to a protest - and using her car to block agents, were the "means" good and pretti had to do what they had been told was "necessary"..

trump and walz are at least talking now...... hopefully they can come to an agreement that will have police in minnesota assisting with federal operations instead of hiding out and refusing to answer calls.....
 
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aleshanee said:
in both that case and the ruby ridge case many of the people involved should have been charged with murder..... .....janet reno was definitely responsible for what happened..... but worthy of being executed over it?
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The above is quoted merely as a springboard. This post is to the general public.

The FBI and the U.S. Army were involved in the siege. This couldn't happen without the both the AG and President. It was not a mistake. It was essentially a military attack on a "church." It was a trial run just like the Plandemic Lockdowns. When uncovered, the dead bodies of many of those in the shelters were severly twisted and arced, which means a nerve agent was being used.

What would be justice in such a case?
 
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Anyway, my point in bringing it up was to point out the inaccuracies in Tarheel's posted cartoon. The children in Waco were not "siezed from their home." They were gassed, crushed, and their home was burned down around them.
 
These people think it’s some kind of game. As if there’re at a parade or something of the sort.

But it looks like Trump is pulling out. Problem is bc Trump isn’t gonna follow through with mass deportation…. When the democrats get in you bes believe there’re coming for blood…meaning arrest of Trump, calling ppl to court you name it.

Again, Trump isn’t serious and we are gonna pay for it not him. The people in his administration are gonna pay for it, not him.
 
subllibrm said:
Lots of people posting videos. At the moment it's being said that the man had already been disarmed when he was shot.

Rebuttal?
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Was there not video showing that he appeared to be moving towards a pistol on his back though?
 
Bruh said:
These people think it’s some kind of game. As if there’re at a parade or something of the sort.

But it looks like Trump is pulling out. Problem is bc Trump isn’t gonna follow through with mass deportation…. When the democrats get in you bes believe there’re coming for blood…meaning arrest of Trump, calling ppl to court you name it.

Again, Trump isn’t serious and we are gonna pay for it not him. The people in his administration are gonna pay for it, not him.
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There are very documented proof that there are big time monies behind all of these movement, as plan to bring in socialism state, and to get trump and anyone else against that targeted and out of the way
 
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