Mike Zachary being investigated?

Binaca Chugger said:
Honey Badger said:

Wow.

I would expect NVBC to make a statement about the situation.  I would expect them to be as forthright as possible, without opening themselves to legal attack for slander or the like.  I would expect them to state that they terminated employment as soon as they heard and took the right steps.

What I did NOT expect is for NVBC to be silent about the dismissal of Brad.  I did NOT expect the two ministries to attack each other.  One would have thought the schools would have gotten their act together and presented a story that coincide with each other.

When you are doing kingdom building Jackie-boy style , it's every ministry for themselves!
 
bgwilkinson said:
brainisengaged said:
I see no "spooning".

Eh, poetic license. Do YOU sit like that with your guy friends?

Maybe at home alone with my wife on the couch watching a chick flick.

Never with a guy any where, anytime, not ever.

Maybe MZ is really Mike (aka Biker) from the OFFF...but I don't see a couch on the album cover.
 
So these don't go down a rabbit hole and to make it easier to follow.

I'll post additional statements when they are forthcoming, it will help all of us understand better what transpired.



The following Statement is by West Coast Baptist College, Paul Chappell President.

http://wcbc.edu/articles/statement-regarding-dr-mike-zachary

Statement Regarding Dr. Mike Zachary
May 12, 2014

On April 21, 2014, we received a phone call from the administration at North Valley Baptist Church in Santa Clara, California, indicating that their ministry had, for some time, been investigating an incident involving Mike Zachary. The incident, which we specifically were told was not “immoral or illegal,” allegedly took place during his employment there several years ago. While we were given no details of the incident, we were assured that there was no cause for dismissal of Dr. Zachary from our employment.

Our administration immediately began a series of meetings with Dr. Zachary to attempt to ascertain the nature of this past situation at the North Valley Baptist Church. It saddens us to share today that in these meetings, while Dr. Zachary admitted to no physical acts of immorality, he did acknowledge temptations and sinful behavior that was inconsistent with what he had disclosed in his interview process a few years ago. At that moment, for the integrity of the ministry, it was determined to dismiss Dr. Zachary.

During our employment interview with Dr. Zachary a few years ago, neither he nor his former employer disclosed any issue of concern regarding impropriety to us when they were asked. We have no reason to believe his former employer had any information about the matters to be disclosed about Dr. Zachary.

Dr. Zachary has expressed repentance for his untruthfulness and behavior. However, because he was not forthright in his interview and because of the behavior and personal struggle he has shared, Dr. Zachary was dismissed.

There have been no allegations or admissions of impropriety or sin during his time here at West Coast Baptist College. We know of no victims of any actions of Dr. Zachary.

While in a meeting with Dr. Zachary, it came to our attention that an employee of North Valley Baptist Church and Golden State Baptist College had been aware of Dr. Zachary’s struggles. In the spirit of full disclosure, we contacted their ministry with specific information regarding their employee.

Lancaster Baptist Church and West Coast Baptist College abide by scriptural principles and written policies when handling such matters. We have not, and will not recommend biblically disqualified persons to another ministry.

We are unaware of the status of the investigation with the North Valley Baptist Church, or any other entities, but pledge to pray for them at this difficult time.

Due to the fact that we are told there is an investigation, it is important that if anyone knows of any impropriety at any ministry where Dr. Zachary has served, we encourage them to report it to the authorities immediately.

Our board of deacons and West Coast Baptist College advisory members have been made aware of this situation.

Due to the need for personal family counsel, we have provided counsel for the Zacharys through a certified Christian counselor. The counseling is underway, and we ask you to pray for the entire Zachary family at this time. We also request prayer for Mrs. Zachary’s mother who was diagnosed with Lou Gehrig's disease a few days ago. The Zacharys are praying about their future plans, and we are asking God to guide them in the process and help them to be restored through the grace of God and with help from the people of God (Galatians 6:1). They are aware of the publishing of this statement.

Anyone with questions regarding this matter from a West Coast Baptist College perspective may contact Dr. John Goetsch. Anyone with concerns of impropriety or illegal actions should contact the authorities.



The following Statement is by West Coast Baptist College, Paul Chappell President.

http://wcbc.edu/articles/follow-up-statement-regarding-dr-mike-zachary

Follow Up Statement regarding Dr. Mike Zachary
May 12, 2014

We received word late Monday afternoon from the North Valley Baptist Church in Santa Clara, California, that there is no longer an investigation of Dr. Mike Zachary. We, therefore, request your prayers for the Zacharys as they confront the spiritual battles of the past through Biblical counseling, application and obedience.

The Zacharys will be moving to Florida to minister to Angie's mother as she battles Lou Gehrig’s disease. Thank you again for your prayers at this time.




The following Statement is by Golden State Baptist College, Jack Trieber President.

http://gsbc.edu/recent_news/responsive-statement-to-west-coast-baptist-colleges-statement-regarding-dr-zacharys-termination/

Response Statement to West Coast Baptist College’s Statement Regarding Dr. Mike Zachary

May 13, 2014
On April 21, 2014, Dr. Jack Trieber telephoned Dr. Paul Chappell to cancel a breakfast appointment that Dr. Chappell had requested with him. Dr. Trieber explained that he did not think that it would be an appropriate time for them to meet because there was an on-going criminal investigation in Santa Clara regarding Dr. Mike Zachary, the Chairman of West Coast Baptist College’s music department.

Dr. Chappell was told that the investigation was on-going and that it was criminal. Dr. Trieber suggested that Dr. Chappell not interfere with the police investigation, and Dr. Trieber always viewed the allegations as both immoral and potentially criminal. That is why Dr. Trieber immediately and personally reported within the hour the allegations to the authorities upon the advice of his legal counsel at the NCLL. Dr. Trieber never recommended that Dr. Chappell keep Dr. Zachary, or any of his staff, as that was Dr. Chappell’s decision to make.

Irrespective of potentially interfering with the police investigation, Dr. Chappell proceeded to interview Dr. Zachary. During the course of these interviews, Dr. Chappell discovered a number of highly troubling facts and serious admissions from Dr. Zachary—Dr. Chappell’s staff member—that led to Dr. Zachary’s termination. It was later disclosed to Dr. Trieber, on May 1, 2014, that one of his staff members may have known about some of these sinful actions of Dr. Zachary. Once confirmed, this staff member was relieved of his responsibilities on May 2, 2014.

The actions to which Dr. Chappell stated Dr. Zachary confessed were clearly acts of gross immorality and potential criminality. Dr. Zachary’s dismissal—from a high position of leadership within a Bible college—was completely appropriate. We wholeheartedly agree with Dr. Chappell’s decision to dismiss Dr. Zachary immediately.

To be perfectly clear, when West Coast Baptist College hired Dr. and Mrs. Zachary, it was done without Dr. Trieber’s direction. Dr. Zachary had resigned from Golden State Baptist College and lined up his interviews at West Coast Baptist College before Dr. Trieber was even aware of Dr. Zachary’s future life plans.

As a matter of policy, North Valley Baptist Church and Golden State Baptist College report all matters of potential child abuse to the authorities. We do not cover child abuse and we do not hire child abusers. We also do not tolerate immorality among our staff.

Please pray for the victims in this sad situation. They are the ones that are truly injured.

We took this opportunity with our staff and deacons to make sure that they understood that failure to immediately report allegations of child abuse is a crime in the State of California and it is grounds for immediate dismissal from our ministry. Transparency, child safety, and accountability are essential for successful ministry leadership.



Here is a new statement from both schools.  This coordinates the stories.

Joint Statement of Dr. Paul Chappell and Dr. Jack Trieber Regarding Dr. Mike Zachary
May 14, 2014

Joint Statement of
Dr. Paul Chappell, West Coast Baptist College and
Dr. Jack Trieber, Golden State Baptist College

http://wcbc.edu/articles/joint-statement-of-dr-paul-chappell-and-dr-jack-trieber-regarding-dr-mike-zachary


For the cause of Christ and for the advancement of the gospel, we mutually state our respect for one another and our appreciation for the ministries God has called us to serve in this needy hour.

It is with great appreciation and deep respect that we minister with one another here in California. It is our desire to model Christlikeness to this and future generations. We are truly thankful for what God is using the other ministry to accomplish for His glory.

"Finally, be ye all of one mind, having compassion one of another, love as brethren, be pitiful, be courteous: Not rendering evil for evil, or railing for railing: but contrariwise blessing; knowing that ye are thereunto called, that ye should inherit a blessing. For he that will love life, and see good days, let him refrain his tongue from evil, and his lips that they speak no guile: Let him eschew evil, and do good; let him seek peace, and ensue it." ( 1 Peter 3:8–11)

Jesus also instructed in John 13:35: “By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.”

It is the desire and practice of our ministries to encourage scriptural and legal handling of all matters brought to us by the sovereign hand of God. In our recent dealings with a very difficult matter, including public statements released by both ministries, it has not been the intent of either ministry to attack or impugn the character of another. We are fully persuaded that each ministry operates with the highest respect for Biblical principles and the legal guidelines of our state.

For the purpose of unity and clarification, adjustments have been graciously made in the previously issued statements (gsbc.edu, wcbc.edu) of each ministry which better reflect the spirit and content of our dealings.

We rejoice for every laborer trained for the harvest and every soul brought to Christ in our respective ministries. We wish to model Christian kindness and respect to each other in a way that encourages servants of God across the nation to keep standing for what is right.

We covet your prayers as we labor for Christ in this needy hour. Our nation needs strong local churches and Christlike men of God like never before.



Well they changed it again. Wow.

http://gsbc.edu/recent_news/responsive-statement-to-west-coast-baptist-colleges-statement-regarding-dr-zacharys-termination/

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Response Statement to West Coast Baptist College’s Statement Regarding Dr. Mike Zachary

May 13, 2014
On May 14, several revisions were made to our original statement. There were concerns that our statement implied that Dr. Chappell willfully interfered with a police investigation. It was not our intention to personally attack Dr. Chappell or further escalate an already difficult situation for both ministries. With that in mind, we are withdrawing the statements which are lined through below.

On April 21, 2014, Dr. Jack Trieber telephoned Dr. Paul Chappell to cancel a breakfast appointment that Dr. Chappell had requested with him. Dr. Trieber explained that he did not think that it would be an appropriate time for them to meet because there was an on-going criminal investigation in Santa Clara regarding Dr. Mike Zachary, the Chairman of West Coast Baptist College’s music department.

Dr. Chappell was told that the investigation was on-going and that it was criminal. Dr. Trieber suggested that Dr. Chappell not interfere with the police investigation, and Dr. Trieber always viewed the allegations as both immoral and potentially criminal. That is why Dr. Trieber immediately and personally reported within the hour the allegations to the authorities upon the advice of his legal counsel at the NCLL. Dr. Trieber never recommended that Dr. Chappell keep Dr. Zachary, or any of his staff, as that was Dr. Chappell’s decision to make.

Irrespective of potentially interfering with the police investigation, Dr. Chappell proceeded to interview Dr. Zachary. During the course of these interviews, Dr. Chappell discovered a number of highly troubling facts and serious admissions from Dr. Zachary—Dr. Chappell’s staff member—that led to Dr. Zachary’s termination. It was later disclosed to Dr. Trieber, on May 1, 2014, that one of his staff members may have known about some of these sinful actions of Dr. Zachary. Once confirmed, this staff member was relieved of his responsibilities on May 2, 2014.

The actions to which Dr. Chappell stated Dr. Zachary confessed were clearly acts of damaging sinful behavior. Dr. Zachary’s dismissal—from a high position of leadership within a Bible college—was completely appropriate. We wholeheartedly agree with Dr. Chappell’s decision to dismiss Dr. Zachary immediately.

To be perfectly clear, when West Coast Baptist College hired Dr. and Mrs. Zachary, it was done without Dr. Trieber’s direction. Dr. Zachary had resigned from Golden State Baptist College and lined up his interviews at West Coast Baptist College before Dr. Trieber was even aware of Dr. Zachary’s future life plans.

As a matter of policy, North Valley Baptist Church and Golden State Baptist College report all matters of potential child abuse to the authorities. We do not cover child abuse and we do not hire child abusers. We also do not tolerate immorality among our staff.

Please pray for those who have been deeply hurt and affected by the actions of others through this sad situation. They are the ones that are truly injured.

We took this opportunity with our staff and deacons to make sure that they understood that failure to immediately report allegations of child abuse is a crime in the State of California and it is grounds for immediate dismissal from our ministry. Transparency, child safety, and accountability are essential for successful ministry leadership.

And this one.


http://wcbc.edu/articles/statement-regarding-dr-mike-zachary

Statement Regarding Dr. Mike Zachary
May 12, 2014

We are adding the following words to our statement effective 5/13/2014:

On April 21, 2014, we received a phone call from the administration at North Valley Baptist Church in Santa Clara, California, indicating that there had been an ongoing investigation involving an incident with Dr. Mike Zachary. The incident, which we specifically were told had not been proven at that time to be “immoral or illegal,” allegedly took place during his employment there several years ago. While we were given no details of the incident, it was our understanding that there was no cause at that time for dismissal of Dr. Zachary from our employment.

Our administration immediately began a series of meetings with Dr. Zachary to attempt to ascertain the nature of this past situation at the North Valley Baptist Church. It saddens us to share today that in these meetings, while Dr. Zachary admitted to no physical acts of immorality, he did acknowledge temptations and sinful behavior that was inconsistent with what he had disclosed in his interview process a few years ago. At that moment, for the integrity of the ministry, it was determined to dismiss Dr. Zachary.

During our employment interview with Dr. Zachary a few years ago, neither he nor his former employer disclosed any issue of concern regarding impropriety to us when they were asked. We have no reason to believe his former employer had any information about the matters to be disclosed about Dr. Zachary.

Dr. Zachary has expressed repentance for his untruthfulness and behavior. However, because he was not forthright in his interview and because of the behavior and personal struggle he has shared, Dr. Zachary was dismissed.

There have been no allegations or admissions of impropriety or sin during his time here at West Coast Baptist College. We know of no victims of any actions of Dr. Zachary.

While in a meeting with Dr. Zachary, it came to our attention that an employee of North Valley Baptist Church and Golden State Baptist College had been aware of Dr. Zachary’s struggles. In the spirit of full disclosure, we contacted their ministry with specific information regarding their employee.

Lancaster Baptist Church and West Coast Baptist College abide by scriptural principles and written policies when handling such matters. We have not, and will not recommend biblically disqualified persons to another ministry.

We are unaware of the status of the investigation with the North Valley Baptist Church, or any other entities, but pledge to pray for them at this difficult time.

Due to the fact that we are told there is an investigation, it is important that if anyone knows of any impropriety at any ministry where Dr. Zachary has served, we encourage them to report it to the authorities immediately.

Our board of deacons and West Coast Baptist College advisory members have been made aware of this situation.

Due to the need for personal family counsel, we have provided counsel for the Zacharys through a certified Christian counselor. The counseling is underway, and we ask you to pray for the entire Zachary family at this time. We also request prayer for Mrs. Zachary’s mother who was diagnosed with Lou Gehrig's disease a few days ago. The Zacharys are praying about their future plans, and we are asking God to guide them in the process and help them to be restored through the grace of God and with help from the people of God (Galatians 6:1). They are aware of the publishing of this statement.

Anyone with questions regarding this matter from a West Coast Baptist College perspective may contact Dr. John Goetsch. Anyone with concerns of impropriety or illegal actions should contact the authorities.

Read a follow up statement: http://wcbc.edu/articles/follow-up-statement-regarding-dr-mike-zachary
 
Binaca Chugger said:
Help requested:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UiJMhy6oSs&list=PLF1AA18270AF6C9E5

I pulled this video from the creep in Vacaville's youtube.  2009.  NVBC youth conf.  Tony Hutson is singing (if you call it that).  In the background, is Boruff, S Roberson and .....  Who is the other guy?  Someone told me it was Mike Strouf, but I just can't imagine it so.

That is not Mike Strouf.  It IS Jack Trieber's brother in law, but not THAT brother in law.  I believe his name is Mark Swanson?
 
JustVisiting said:
Binaca Chugger said:
Help requested:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UiJMhy6oSs&list=PLF1AA18270AF6C9E5

I pulled this video from the creep in Vacaville's youtube.  2009.  NVBC youth conf.  Tony Hutson is singing (if you call it that).  In the background, is Boruff, S Roberson and .....  Who is the other guy?  Someone told me it was Mike Strouf, but I just can't imagine it so.

That is not Mike Strouf.  It IS Jack Trieber's brother in law, but not THAT brother in law.  I believe his name is Mark Swanson?

THANK YOU!  that's a relief.
 
But Trieber is still letting Mike Strouf drive the bus, right?

Trieber  allowed him to return from Colorado after the statute of limitations had expired. He should have turned him over to the police.
 
AmazedbyGrace said:
But Trieber is still letting Mike Strouf drive the bus, right?

Trieber  allowed him to return from Colorado after the statute of limitations had expired. He should have turned him over to the police.

From what I understand, yes on the bus and DEFINITELY yes on the statute of limitations
 
Is it fair to say that after reading both of the college statements, either Mr. Trieber is a liar or Mr Chappell is liar?



(PS: Forgive me because I usually don't post on these kind of stories, but the Corporatese used in the statements is disheartening as is the responses of the involved colleges.)
 
North said:
Is it fair to say that after reading both of the college statements, either Mr. Trieber is a liar or Mr Chappell is liar?



(PS: Forgive me because I usually don't post on these kind of stories, but the Corporatese used in the statements is disheartening as is the responses of the involved colleges.)

Do you think it is the third choice, are they both?

That sounds harsh. Sorry. How else can you ask the question?

Maybe it is the fourth possibility, they are both telling the truth as they see it.

One thing is certain, those statements seem to have been written by lawyers who like parsing their words.

I understand the Gibbs family is representing them.

Father and son as in separate law firms. Can you imagine if they have to litigate against each other?

Do you think there is any bad blood between them?

IMHO.
 
And, again I ask: Is it appropriate to have these men come to speak at the FBC homecoming conference this fall?
 
To be honest, I am happy that some formal declaration was made by both institutions, even with much information lacking.

I have been in nationally known churches when an announcement was made that someone is guilty of a sin that has caused them to no longer be able to be employed at a church.  The request is made to pray for them and the family as they face difficult times.  To help them find restoration, they are moving to a new area. 

I have no doubt that both of these institutions did this in their local churches.  What was normally lacking, was the statement to others.  We are independent churches, so there really needs to be no formal statement to the public, other than warning the next church to which they move.  However, when you promote your ministry and its leaders across the nation, sell your ideas and recruit members from other churches, you have a responsibility to inform those other churches.

I think that maybe our voices on this forum and others like it is helping leaders in these institutions to recognize this need.  Yes, I wish they were more honest and less "don't sue me," but we have made some progress in our movement.  Maybe it will be a little while yet before teh leaders of the movement realize what the some of us have discovered in Scripture - Repentance is part of Restoration.
 
Both colleges have released a combined statement and have revised their past statements to appear less hostile.

http://gsbc.edu/recent_news/joint-statement-of-golden-state-baptist-college-and-west-coast-baptist-college/



So was this line removed from the GSBC announcement because Trieber lied or just so he would not appear to be slamming Chappell?

"Dr. Trieber suggested that Dr. Chappell not interfere with the police investigation, and"

WCBC has removed their entire first announcement from their site.
 
prophet said:
I'm gonna sound awful, egotistical, chauvinistic, etc. here:

Real men don't like having lisping faries around.

Effeminate is a sin.

1Co 6:9
9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived:neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,


If MZ smoked Kools, he would have never had a job.
But he is effeminate, living in open, outward sin, and we ignore it, because we need his ability.

Those chickens will come home to roost.

Done ranting now.

Anishinaabe

Yes the sin in being effeminate most certainly exhibits a weakness that if left unchecked/unaccountable will most certainly lead to gross abomination.

LET THIS BE A WARNING FBCH and any other church.  A Tragedy in the making is to allow effeminate men teaching or being around any of our youth.  They are not sweet.  They are not harmless.  It can only be ignored our own once again peril.
 
brainisengaged said:


Does anyone know where the Hefner's are now?  I know that Steve was being "counseled" for "tendencies" before the family was removed from their positions in another NW Indiana Baptist church.  Steve is another, like Mike Zachary, who had some effeminate characteristics, and struggled in some areas, also similar to MZ.
 
tobytyler said:
Does anyone know where the Hefner's are now?  I know that Steve was being "counseled" for "tendencies" before the family was removed from their positions in another NW Indiana Baptist church.  Steve is another, like Mike Zachary, who had some effeminate characteristics, and struggled in some areas, also similar to MZ.

Shelby North Carolina.  Sales.  Married, Father, Grandfather. 
 
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