The Heresies of the Religion of Calvinism and how Satan has used it to infiltrate the Church

[UGC]

Why don't you simpletons also go back and mirror the doctrines of the church fathers.

Many of them are only remembered because of the Catholic church's influence on the remembered history of Christianity (as if the dark ages never occurred as well).

God will not reveal his truth to you until you stop lazily relying on the irrelevant opinions of dead sinners and get your head in that Holy book for yourself.

That's what makes Protestants different from Catholics: neither "The Church of England" nor "The Church of Rome" nor any other political institution dictates to us our final authority: only the Bible can do that. Therefore, if the Bible disagrees with John Calvin, we throw John Calvin in the garbage, not the Bible like you are pathetically doing without even realizing how you're elevating the fallible writings of dead sinners you've never even met over the Holy words of God.

 

[Ransom]

Your primary problem is you idolize men rather than the word of God itself.

Coming from a guy who once tried to call down God's judgment on me for disparaging Old Moldy Pete, this is rich.

And your friend Kevin, like Old Moldy, is still a liar and a false teacher, and the video in the OP is the height of stupidity.

 

[Ransom]

Why don't you simpletons also go back and mirror the doctrines of the church fathers.

Why don't you go back to the abyss? Fall into the nothingness that awaits you and your master.

 

[Ransom]

A superlative source on this topic who is now making waves across the internet is Pastor Kevin Thompson, who I believe now has around 100 videos lacerating Calvin's doctrines down to their core ideological essence.

And yet, still the UGC Wonder Twins refuse to defend the idiotic views of Plastered Kevin Thompson, who apparently posts theology to YouTube while in his cups rather than his wits.

That's OK. Everbody already knew UGC is not a serious person with serious theology or serious Christianity. Just another grifter.

 

[UGC]

How angry Ransom became once someone nailed the core of his sin: he elevates the opinions of fallible men over the infallible word of God.

Which is why almost none of his, or tmjbog's arguments are coming directly from the scriptures, but instead fall back on some "History of the Church 101" class they took at New Calvin New Version Seminary which they could have gotten for free online or for a quarter at the local library. In fact, each time they use the scriptures they twist and distort them to force-fit them into Calvin's tiny little retarded TULIP box. It's obvious by how they ignore what verses plainly and clearly say whenever they don't match their favorite 400 year old confession written by politicians and morons who were no doubt Postmillennial just like Calvin or Amillennial like the Catholic church.

 

[tmjbog]

"Not all of the KJV translators were Calvinist, some were Arminian." -tmjbog
"All of the KJV translators were Calvinist." -tmjbog 2 minutes later

"We do everything backwards. We make the Bible say what Calvin wanted it to say. Calvin is our God. God predestined people to go to hell." -People not worth debating

Your primary problem is you idolize men rather than the word of God itself. You waste all your time trying to connect dots to force Calvinism into the Bible when nowhere in the King James Bible is Calvinism present regardless of whatever temporary, contemporary doctrines (plural) were remembered by pop culture to be around at the time.

You are ok with the majority of the translators for the version you use being followers of a satanic doctrine? What's happening is you are running into one of the problems with Ruckmanism. You can't run a scorched earth campaign against everyone you disagree with then backtrack when it serves your argument. Either these Calvinists were following a satanic doctrine in which case everything they touched should be under suspicion or you have to admit they were sincere Christians who, perhaps you disagree with on several points, but that doesn't impact the quality of their translation work.

 

[UGC]

Connecting dots the way you want them to be connected.

Do you believe that works salvation is heresy or not?

 

[UGC]

You are ok with the majority of the translators

Blatant lie.

"They were a diverse group. While some were born in large cities and towns, most were from small villages scattered throughout England. Several were the children of university graduates, most were not. They were sons of mariners, farmers, school teachers, cordwainers (leather merchants), fletchers (makers of bows and arrows), ministers, brewers, tailors, and aristocrats. All were members of the Church of England, but their religious views ran the gamut. Some were ardent Puritans, others staunch defenders of the religious establishment. Some believed in pre-destination and limited salvation as taught by John Calvin, while others believed in self-determination and universal access to heaven as taught by Jacobus Arminius."

You are also not addressing the fact that many Calvinists might have been saved at one point and have the Holy Spirit in them, but then place themselves back under the curse of the law with Calvin's unbiblical "Perseverance of the Saints" doctrine just like the saved Galatians did. Does this mean God cannot use a person who is born again yet caught up in a Satanic false doctrine? The problem with that false doctrine is how it distorts the clarity of the Gospel so that others don't understand how to be saved, as is evident by the fruits of the New Calvinist Movement today and its heretical Lordship Salvation gospel that the people have rejected, leading to the apostasy of the first world.

Ye shall know them by their fruits.
Even the Catholics, who believe in a variation of the Perseverance doctrine and also claim to use the Bible, are in staunch opposition to Calvin's crazy "you have no choice" Perseverance of the Saints doctrine here.

 

[tmjbog]

How angry Ransom became once someone nailed the core of his sin: he elevates the opinions of fallible men over the infallible word of God.

Which is why almost none of his, or tmjbog's arguments are coming directly from the scriptures, but instead fall back on some "History of the Church 101" class they took at New Calvin New Version Seminary which they could have gotten for free online or for a quarter at the local library. In fact, each time they use the scriptures they twist and distort them to force-fit them into Calvin's tiny little retarded TULIP box. It's obvious by how they ignore what verses plainly and clearly say whenever they don't match their favorite 400 year old confession written by politicians and morons who were no doubt Postmillennial just like Calvin or Amillennial like the Catholic church.

Blatant lie.

"They were a diverse group. While some were born in large cities and towns, most were from small villages scattered throughout England. Several were the children of university graduates, most were not. They were sons of mariners, farmers, school teachers, cordwainers (leather merchants), fletchers (makers of bows and arrows), ministers, brewers, tailors, and aristocrats. All were members of the Church of England, but their religious views ran the gamut. Some were ardent Puritans, others staunch defenders of the religious establishment. Some believed in pre-destination and limited salvation as taught by John Calvin, while others believed in self-determination and universal access to heaven as taught by Jacobus Arminius."

You are also not addressing the fact that many Calvinists might have been saved at one point and have the Holy Spirit in them, but then place themselves back under the curse of the law with Calvin's unbiblical "Perseverance of the Saints" doctrine just like the saved Galatians did. Does this mean God cannot use a person who is born again yet caught up in a Satanic false doctrine? The problem with that false doctrine is how it distorts the clarity of the Gospel so that others don't understand how to be saved, as is evident by the fruits of the New Calvinist Movement today and its heretical Lordship Salvation gospel that the people have rejected, leading to the apostasy of the first world.

Ye shall know them by their fruits.
Even the Catholics, who believe in a variation of the Perseverance doctrine and also claim to use the Bible, are in staunch opposition to Calvin's crazy "you have no choice" Perseverance of the Saints doctrine here.

So just for the sake of argument let's pretend their were only two Calvinists working on KJV. You believe two individuals following the doctrine of satan involved in translation of KJV does not create a problem?

 

[tmjbog]

Connecting dots the way you want them to be connected.

Do you believe that works salvation is heresy or not?

You would have to define your terms. I've heard people refer to praying for salvation as a work.

 

[UGC]

You believe two individuals following the doctrine of satan involved in translation of KJV does not create a problem?

I literally just answered this question.

 

[tmjbog]

Blatant lie.

"They were a diverse group. While some were born in large cities and towns, most were from small villages scattered throughout England. Several were the children of university graduates, most were not. They were sons of mariners, farmers, school teachers, cordwainers (leather merchants), fletchers (makers of bows and arrows), ministers, brewers, tailors, and aristocrats. All were members of the Church of England, but their religious views ran the gamut. Some were ardent Puritans, others staunch defenders of the religious establishment. Some believed in pre-destination and limited salvation as taught by John Calvin, while others believed in self-determination and universal access to heaven as taught by Jacobus Arminius."

You are also not addressing the fact that many Calvinists might have been saved at one point and have the Holy Spirit in them, but then place themselves back under the curse of the law with Calvin's unbiblical "Perseverance of the Saints" doctrine just like the saved Galatians did. Does this mean God cannot use a person who is born again yet caught up in a Satanic false doctrine? The problem with that false doctrine is how it distorts the clarity of the Gospel so that others don't understand how to be saved, as is evident by the fruits of the New Calvinist Movement today and its heretical Lordship Salvation gospel that the people have rejected, leading to the apostasy of the first world.

Ye shall know them by their fruits.
Even the Catholics, who believe in a variation of the Perseverance doctrine and also claim to use the Bible, are in staunch opposition to Calvin's crazy "you have no choice" Perseverance of the Saints doctrine here.

Ok. Than we are agreed a Calvinists working on a Bible translation does not necessarily make it a bad translation. I'm assuming you would be consistent with that across translations.

 

[UGC]

Ok. Than we are agreed a Calvinists working on a Bible translation does not necessarily make it a bad translation. I'm assuming you would be consistent with that across translations.

Absolutely, so long as it's not exclusively Calvinists with no members of opposing camps to ensure Calvinist doctrine doesn't enter the translation (and the fact that it was Calvinists and Arminians says something as those are not only disagreeing camps, but enemy camps). I do, however, have a problem with New Age Theosophists who believe Jesus was an "ascended master" carrying any kind of influence with translating boards. There is a difference, there are levels to heresy and intent. Clearly most Calvinists are not intentional heretics, while New Age Theosophists knowingly are and are OK with that. But that carries far less weight in the translation issue compared to the MSS.

Also, if we are truthful about this, the primary reason any of them would have identified as Calvinists is due to the social conditioning and sway of the popular "institutionalized modern establishment".

I have zero doubt, absolutely none whatsoever, that if I was alive back then and knew what I know, and had a chance to sit down and go through scripture with those Calvinist translators of the KJV, that I would have easily gotten them out from under that stronghold so long as it wouldn't be a major impact to their financial situation or career reputations (which honestly, it probably would for some of them, so we would probably encounter problems there, but if they esteemed the word of God higher, they would shift their positions to align with scripture, not mad Calvin).

 

[voicecrying]

Therefore, if the Bible disagrees with John Calvin, we throw John Calvin in the garbage...

I hope there's room for Ruckman in that trash bin.

 

[Ransom]

How angry Ransom became once someone nailed the core of his sin: he elevates the opinions of fallible men over the infallible word of God.

Still very easily distracted, I see.

*ring ring* Nice doggie.

 

[Ransom]

I hope there's room for Ruckman in that trash bin.

Hey now, that's no way to treat perfectly good trash.

 

[Ransom]

So just for the sake of argument let's pretend their were only two Calvinists working on KJV. You believe two individuals following the doctrine of satan involved in translation of KJV does not create a problem?

You know how KJV-only clowns like to disparage modern Bibles by asking how much rat poison you will tolerate in your pure food?

Now you know their answer.

 

[UGC]

You know how KJV-only clowns like to disparage modern Bibles by asking how much rat poison you will tolerate in your pure food?

You know how deceivers like to combine 2 totally unrelated topics like Calvinism and the KJV translators who were Puritan, Arminian, and not all Calvinist?

How many of the KJV translators were professional theologians and how many of them were translators?

Why are you looking to translators for your theology and doctrine? Isn't it their job to translate and theologians' job to then read their translation and formulate their own doctrinal opinions? How did you get that backwards?

Red herring and ring your little voicecrying bell all you want (that little boy needs to cut the dog mop off his head), it doesn't change the fact that K. Thompson just diced Calvinism up and left all 5 points out to dry, dead TULIP's shriveled up like raisins. I eat them for breakfast and feed the rest to voicecrying *ring ring*

 

[Ransom]

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You know how deceivers like to combine 2 totally unrelated topics like Calvinism and the KJV translators who were Puritan, Arminian, and not all Calvinist?

Yeah, they like to post YouTube videos to the forum, then change the subject instantly when someone asks them questions they can't answer.

Sort of like you mental midgets.

*ring ring*

it doesn't change the fact that K. Thompson just diced Calvinism

I'm not suprised you're so easily impressed by a slightly taller mental midget. He's still about 3'10", but where you are, he must look like Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.

 

[Bob H]

I sure wish McPhil was still around....... I'd pop some corn