Three ACTUAL Reasons Why Millennials Are Leaving the IFB Church

[bgwilkinson]

A quick recap of the article.

Have  you noticed these in the assembly you attend?

What do you think, is this guy on target?

I. Apathetic Worship
It is an apathetic, dead, careless, unenthusiastic style of “worship” (if it can even be called worship) which is very frustrating.

II. Story Time, Not Teaching Time
Poor exegesis, bad and false doctrine, but lots of stories and jokes.

III. Non-Answers
To ask questions is to open yourself up to attack, rebuke, or ridicule.



For the whole article

https://guyandhiscamera.wordpress.com/2015/04/17/three-actual-reasons-why-millennials-are-leaving-the-ifb-church/

 

[The Rogue Tomato]

Yeah, that was pretty good.

 

[prophet]

Calvinist propoganda, delivered by Captain Obvious.

 

[Binaca Chugger]

I didn't read the article.  Your summary is a fairly uninformed, generalization that may or may not be true of any individual.  Articles that portray opinion as fact bother me. 

 

[Smellin Coffee]

I agree with points one and three. Point two, that is not always the case because they are leaving churches that do focus on doctrine instead of stories. This has been the case in the last couple of churches I attended.

In my opinion, I have a point 2 to replace it:

II. Inability to connect with fellow parishioners.

You have a greeter at the front sidewalk, a greeter at the door, a greeter in the hallway, a greeter at the door of the sanctuary, sit waiting for the service and nobody says "Boo." Small groups become about the leader being the teacher, asking a few rote questions found at the end of the devotional book and ask for prayer requests. Those thing aren't necessarily bad but millenials are looking for personal connection both with God (point I) and with others (my point II) and being accepted without judgement despite uncertainty, difference of opinion, difference of political views and feelings/ideas that don't line up with what the church wants one to believe in an effort to serve or sometimes sit in the pew on a regular basis.

 

[Tarheel Baptist]

Seems like millennials are leaving all favors of churches...but fortunately, because of zillions of articles and blog posts, we know why. 

https://www.google.com/#q=why+millennials+are+leaving+the+church

 

[Recovering IFB]

I don't know, but it seems to me at my assembly, is that the millennials make up about 75%.out of about 300 people.

 

[Bob H]

Seems like millennials are leaving all favors of churches...but fortunately, because of zillions of articles and blog posts, we know why. 

https://www.google.com/#q=why+millennials+are+leaving+the+church

You got that right. Why can't we just let the scriptures speak:

"Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils"

or

"For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables......."

 

[Recovering IFB]

Seems like millennials are leaving all favors of churches...but fortunately, because of zillions of articles and blog posts, we know why. 

https://www.google.com/#q=why+millennials+are+leaving+the+church

You got that right. Why can't we just let the scriptures speak:

"Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils"

or

"For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables......."

Yup sounds about right in the direction that the IFB is going

 

[Bruh]

He shows his age all over his blog.

 

[Bob H]

Seems like millennials are leaving all favors of churches...but fortunately, because of zillions of articles and blog posts, we know why. 

https://www.google.com/#q=why+millennials+are+leaving+the+church

You got that right. Why can't we just let the scriptures speak:

"Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils"

or

"For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables......."

Yup sounds about right in the direction that the IFB is going

Ya, right. Paul was thinking of modern American Baptist when he wrote that. That scripture was for that  time as well as ours. You must be one the them "B"s that go back to John. The horse is dead. Let the hate go.

 

[Recovering IFB]

Seems like millennials are leaving all favors of churches...but fortunately, because of zillions of articles and blog posts, we know why. 

https://www.google.com/#q=why+millennials+are+leaving+the+church

You got that right. Why can't we just let the scriptures speak:

"Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils"

or

"For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables......."

Yup sounds about right in the direction that the IFB is going

Ya, right. Paul was thinking of modern American Baptist when he wrote that. That scripture was for that  time as well as ours. You must be one the them "B"s that go back to John. The horse is dead. Let the hate go.

Don't know how you came to a conclusion that I was a landmarker. And trust me, there is not hate. Pure joy now ??

 

[Bruh]

The way America looks or the world for that matter, it appears the Cavinist, SBC, Presbyterians, Methodist, Lutherians, IFB's, small house group or any other denomination has no business telling others what their problems are......

 

[Fresh Air]

Like so much else of this stripe it is rather shallow, poorly researched, and given little thought. IMHO, such pieces are only designed to produce blog traffic or notice. They don't actually contribute anything substantial to the conversation.

...might as well be a post here on the forum. 

 

[Frag]

Actual reasons?

1.  Supposed salvation experience that did not include Holy Spirit conviction, repentance, or heart belief.

2.  Failure to implement the truths of probably the first Psalm they memorized -- Psalm One.

3.  Christian school punk mentality that pastors are afraid to purge from their schools. 

 

[prophet]

Actual reasons?

1.  Supposed salvation experience that did not include Holy Spirit conviction, repentance, or heart belief.

2.  Failure to implement the truths of probably the first Psalm they memorized -- Psalm One.

3.  Christian school punk mentality that pastors are afraid to purge from their schools.

Your conscience convicts you, not The Holy Spirit.
Stick to The Scriptures, and quit repeating slogans.

In case you lost your Concordance, here is the only appearance of the word in Scripture:

John 8:9 9
And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last:and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst.

The lost don't have The indwelling Holy Spirit.

And "convict" is a final judgment.
It means : To be declared as guilty, and worthy of punishment.

No saved person is convicted by God.

Lost people are convicted by "their own conscience".

And don't go quoting verses w/o the word " conviction" in them (since the word never appears in Scripture), to back up your man-made doctrine.
I'll call you on it.

Just realize that some of your doctrine is man-made, and review it all, pulling the weeds.

 

[Tarheel Baptist]

Actual reasons?

1.  Supposed salvation experience that did not include Holy Spirit conviction, repentance, or heart belief.

2.  Failure to implement the truths of probably the first Psalm they memorized -- Psalm One.

3.  Christian school punk mentality that pastors are afraid to purge from their schools.

Your conscience convicts you, not The Holy Spirit.
Stick to The Scriptures, and quit repeating slogans.

In case you lost your Concordance, here is the only appearance of the word in Scripture:

John 8:9 9
And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last:and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst.

The lost don't have The indwelling Holy Spirit.

And "convict" is a final judgment.
It means : To be declared as guilty, and worthy of punishment.

No saved person is convicted by God.

Lost people are convicted by "their own conscience".

And don't go quoting verses w/o the word " conviction" in them (since the word never appears in Scripture), to back up your man-made doctrine.
I'll call you on it.

Just realize that some of your doctrine is man-made, and review it all, pulling the weeds.

Perhaps you and Frag have some agreement here...unless you think the Holy Spirit has no role in salvation. Many times, I have referenced the conviction of the Holy Spirit in my conversation had had no idea I was speaking heresy!  :

When I said that, I was referring to God drawing men to Himself in salvation. Unlike you and Frag, I'm a 'calvinist' and believe salvation is instigated by God, not man. But I agree with Frag, that this bow your head and say a prayer has produced false professions in which God had no involvement.

As to the Millennials leaving church, which was the subject of the OP, I think...I know ALL churches of all stripes are 'losing'.....not reaching millennials. And, as my Google link illustrates, all manner of people have bloviated about it.

 

[prophet]

Actual reasons?

1.  Supposed salvation experience that did not include Holy Spirit conviction, repentance, or heart belief.

2.  Failure to implement the truths of probably the first Psalm they memorized -- Psalm One.

3.  Christian school punk mentality that pastors are afraid to purge from their schools.

Your conscience convicts you, not The Holy Spirit.
Stick to The Scriptures, and quit repeating slogans.

In case you lost your Concordance, here is the only appearance of the word in Scripture:

John 8:9 9
And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last:and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst.

The lost don't have The indwelling Holy Spirit.

And "convict" is a final judgment.
It means : To be declared as guilty, and worthy of punishment.

No saved person is convicted by God.

Lost people are convicted by "their own conscience".

And don't go quoting verses w/o the word " conviction" in them (since the word never appears in Scripture), to back up your man-made doctrine.
I'll call you on it.

Just realize that some of your doctrine is man-made, and review it all, pulling the weeds.

Perhaps you and Frag have some agreement here...unless you think the Holy Spirit has no role in salvation. Many times, I have referenced the conviction of the Holy Spirit in my conversation had had no idea I was speaking heresy!  :

When I said that, I was referring to God drawing men to Himself in salvation. Unlike you and Frag, I'm a 'calvinist' and believe salvation is instigated by God, not man. But I agree with Frag, that this bow your head and say a prayer has produced false professions in which God had no involvement.

As to the Millennials leaving church, which was the subject of the OP, I think...I know ALL churches of all stripes are 'losing'.....not reaching millennials. And, as my Google link illustrates, all manner of people have bloviated about it.

Since I quoted Frag, I have no idea what you are referring to.

But, while we are at it...
I'm not a Calvinist, but I read that God initiated Salvation.

 

[Tarheel Baptist]

Actual reasons?

1.  Supposed salvation experience that did not include Holy Spirit conviction, repentance, or heart belief.

2.  Failure to implement the truths of probably the first Psalm they memorized -- Psalm One.

3.  Christian school punk mentality that pastors are afraid to purge from their schools.

Your conscience convicts you, not The Holy Spirit.
Stick to The Scriptures, and quit repeating slogans.

In case you lost your Concordance, here is the only appearance of the word in Scripture:

John 8:9 9
And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last:and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst.

The lost don't have The indwelling Holy Spirit.

And "convict" is a final judgment.
It means : To be declared as guilty, and worthy of punishment.

No saved person is convicted by God.

Lost people are convicted by "their own conscience".

And don't go quoting verses w/o the word " conviction" in them (since the word never appears in Scripture), to back up your man-made doctrine.
I'll call you on it.

Just realize that some of your doctrine is man-made, and review it all, pulling the weeds.

Perhaps you and Frag have some agreement here...unless you think the Holy Spirit has no role in salvation. Many times, I have referenced the conviction of the Holy Spirit in my conversation had had no idea I was speaking heresy!  :

When I said that, I was referring to God drawing men to Himself in salvation. Unlike you and Frag, I'm a 'calvinist' and believe salvation is instigated by God, not man. But I agree with Frag, that this bow your head and say a prayer has produced false professions in which God had no involvement.

As to the Millennials leaving church, which was the subject of the OP, I think...I know ALL churches of all stripes are 'losing'.....not reaching millennials. And, as my Google link illustrates, all manner of people have bloviated about it.

Since I quoted Frag, I have no idea what you are referring to.

But, while we are at it...
I'm not a Calvinist, but I read that God initiated Salvation.

I'm not sure you have any idea what Frag was referencing either.
And that on the forum you can respond to posts quoting a third party! 

Frags point was that many in the church are not truly saved because their salvation 'experience' was not instigated by God. I agree with Frag, false professions are the scourge of the church.

It ain't rocket science!

 

[prophet]

Actual reasons?

1.  Supposed salvation experience that did not include Holy Spirit conviction, repentance, or heart belief.

2.  Failure to implement the truths of probably the first Psalm they memorized -- Psalm One.

3.  Christian school punk mentality that pastors are afraid to purge from their schools.

Your conscience convicts you, not The Holy Spirit.
Stick to The Scriptures, and quit repeating slogans.

In case you lost your Concordance, here is the only appearance of the word in Scripture:

John 8:9 9
And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last:and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst.

The lost don't have The indwelling Holy Spirit.

And "convict" is a final judgment.
It means : To be declared as guilty, and worthy of punishment.

No saved person is convicted by God.

Lost people are convicted by "their own conscience".

And don't go quoting verses w/o the word " conviction" in them (since the word never appears in Scripture), to back up your man-made doctrine.
I'll call you on it.

Just realize that some of your doctrine is man-made, and review it all, pulling the weeds.

Perhaps you and Frag have some agreement here...unless you think the Holy Spirit has no role in salvation. Many times, I have referenced the conviction of the Holy Spirit in my conversation had had no idea I was speaking heresy!  :

When I said that, I was referring to God drawing men to Himself in salvation. Unlike you and Frag, I'm a 'calvinist' and believe salvation is instigated by God, not man. But I agree with Frag, that this bow your head and say a prayer has produced false professions in which God had no involvement.

As to the Millennials leaving church, which was the subject of the OP, I think...I know ALL churches of all stripes are 'losing'.....not reaching millennials. And, as my Google link illustrates, all manner of people have bloviated about it.

Since I quoted Frag, I have no idea what you are referring to.

But, while we are at it...
I'm not a Calvinist, but I read that God initiated Salvation.

I'm not sure you have any idea what Frag was referencing either.
And that on the forum you can respond to posts quoting a third party! 

Frags point was that many in the church are not truly saved because their salvation 'experience' was not instigated by God. I agree with Frag, false professions are the scourge of the church.

It ain't rocket science!

This was a whole lot of nothing