Trickle Down Does Still Work

Twisted said:
So, Smellin', step up and pay the rent and the C-Section.

Yeah... Not going to happen. It's easier to just demand others to pay for it.
 
Twisted said:
Smellin Coffee said:
Twisted said:
Smellin Coffee said:
HeDied4U said:
Perhaps the stores that are being closed are under-performing stores and the closures have been in the works for a while. If that's the case, I'll admit that it's bad timing on Walmart's part to announce bonuses and higher starting wages and then announce store closings.

I've been in one of the Sam's Club stores that is slated for closure in Illinois (Matteson) and I have to admit that it's not the best Sam's Club I've ever been in. It's also in an economically depressed area that has seen a lot of stores going out of business, so I'm sure that hasn't helped.

So rather than infusing $ into an economically-depressed area by fixing the issues, it just makes more people in that area unemployed. So what happens? The club members go to the more "economically productive" (i.e, white) areas to do their business. Hurts both the patrons in the area who are transportationally challenged as well as the former employees of the store.

Life sucks, doesn't it?

For some, yes.

Just like the family I know who is expecting their 4th child next month (the eldest died two years ago at age 10) and are facing eviction the 9th of February (her scheduled C-section date is Feb 2). He hasn't worked since October due to an injury because his employer won't let him work "until he is 100%" and deemed so by a doctor).

This is a refugee family from Sudan who moved here 15 months ago without knowing a word in English and neither with an education past 9th grade. No skill set, language barrier, no education and no Internet (except for his Obamaphone which has very limited data).

So yeah, life does suck for some.

And who's paying for the C- section?  Was he injured at work? 

It used to be immigrants had to have support here before they come. 

This is exactly who we DON'T want immigrating.  So, Smellin', step up and pay the rent and the C-Section.  And get them internet.

He was not injured at work.

Glad you are being the hands and feet to Jesus to these folks by wanting to send them back to their pillaged village, risking their lives again. Pro-life Christianity at its finest, folks!

Yet another example of why I am Exvangelical. And yes, I have been personally helping them financially by paying what I am able to, some of their expenses.
 
sword said:
Smellin Coffee said:
Ransom said:
Smellin Coffee said:
Wikipedia says Walmart employs 2.3 million employees. $400 million divided by 2.3 million folks brings the average to about $175 per employee. Considering some have been there over 20 years to get the full $1000 bonus, those who work there 5 years or less don't get much.
The left complains that Walmart underpays its employees.
Then the left complains that Walmart gives its employees a bonus.

Some people are never satisfied.

Apparently, the only money that can do someone any good is what the government gives them.
Laying off is "underpaying" employees. I'm glad they are raising their hiring wage to a more livable wage. I'm also not complaining the company is giving out a bonus. What I am saying is they shouldn't be giving out bonuses (primarily at corporate level where most 20-year employees work) at the expense of cutting the jobs of others, especially the lower-waged jobs. The bonus is nothing more than a shell game, not true "trickle down".

To help you with your math Walmart has 1.4 million employees in the US. The raises and bonuses apply to US employees only. Walmart has 4672 stores in the US (660 Sams clubs). The stores they are closing are under performing stores many in difficult areas to do business. The number of employees they employee at their world headquarters is minimal as a % of the total number.

So 40% of their employees are not eligible simply because they don't live in the US. Their value to the company shouldn't be rewarded. Who works 20 years at Walmart? The greeter at the front door? The cashier? They stockroom guy? There might be a couple. The majority of folks are those in either corporate positions or management.

Trickle down never goes as deep as needed. It is like putting coffee creamer in a cup of coffee. If it isn't stirred equally, the top portion gets the benefit whereas the middle is barely effected and there is little to no effect at the bottom of the cup where it is needed the most.
 
Tarheel Baptist said:
Smellin Coffee said:
Ransom said:
Tarheel Baptist said:
Evil corporations wanting to make a profit!
That surely will change the direction of the flotillas!

You have to understand that to the left, a business proprietor is not running a means of making himself money and hiring employees to help him do so. He is a social worker running a charity for their benefit.

Can't speak about the entire left, but yeah, according to the parables of Jesus too. ;)

You are my go to guy as to what the Bible says and doesn't say.... ::)
You are not only biblically ignorant, you are economically challenged as well.
Your number was no doubt 1! ;)

I don't want to be your go-to guy for what the Bible teaches. Those should be the words in red. You should be using that as your strainer through which the rest of the canon is being filtered. Jesus' parables are clear about economics and about how to treat those who are less fortunate. I'm sorry your god of capitalism can't see through the Benjamins to recognize Jesus' teaching.
 
Tarheel Baptist said:
sword said:
Smellin Coffee said:
Ransom said:
Smellin Coffee said:
Wikipedia says Walmart employs 2.3 million employees. $400 million divided by 2.3 million folks brings the average to about $175 per employee. Considering some have been there over 20 years to get the full $1000 bonus, those who work there 5 years or less don't get much.
The left complains that Walmart underpays its employees.
Then the left complains that Walmart gives its employees a bonus.

Some people are never satisfied.

Apparently, the only money that can do someone any good is what the government gives them.
Laying off is "underpaying" employees. I'm glad they are raising their hiring wage to a more livable wage. I'm also not complaining the company is giving out a bonus. What I am saying is they shouldn't be giving out bonuses (primarily at corporate level where most 20-year employees work) at the expense of cutting the jobs of others, especially the lower-waged jobs. The bonus is nothing more than a shell game, not true "trickle down".

To help you with your math Walmart has 1.4 million employees in the US. The raises and bonuses apply to US employees only. Walmart has 4672 stores in the US (660 Sams clubs). The stores they are closing are under performing stores many in difficult areas to do business. The number of employees they employee at their world headquarters is minimal as a % of the total number.

You don't understand business like #1 does.
Walmart should not consider whether or not the stores show profit or loss...they simply keep them going.
Until America is like Venezuela!

Again, sometimes closing stores has to take place. But this whole ploy was a shell game, to eliminate jobs to the top tier of employees in the US make a higher profit. This isn't completely the "trickle-down" from the tax break. That's all I was pointing out.
 
Smellin Coffee said:
Tarheel Baptist said:
Smellin Coffee said:
Ransom said:
Tarheel Baptist said:
Evil corporations wanting to make a profit!
That surely will change the direction of the flotillas!

You have to understand that to the left, a business proprietor is not running a means of making himself money and hiring employees to help him do so. He is a social worker running a charity for their benefit.

Can't speak about the entire left, but yeah, according to the parables of Jesus too. ;)

You are my go to guy as to what the Bible says and doesn't say.... ::)
You are not only biblically ignorant, you are economically challenged as well.
Your number was no doubt 1! ;)

I don't want to be your go-to guy for what the Bible teaches. Those should be the words in red. You should be using that as your strainer through which the rest of the canon is being filtered. Jesus' parables are clear about economics and about how to treat those who are less fortunate. I'm sorry your god of capitalism can't see through the Benjamins to recognize Jesus' teaching.

Yet again, I remind you of reality:
 
Tarheel Baptist said:
Smellin Coffee said:
Tarheel Baptist said:
Smellin Coffee said:
Ransom said:
Tarheel Baptist said:
Evil corporations wanting to make a profit!
That surely will change the direction of the flotillas!

You have to understand that to the left, a business proprietor is not running a means of making himself money and hiring employees to help him do so. He is a social worker running a charity for their benefit.

Can't speak about the entire left, but yeah, according to the parables of Jesus too. ;)

You are my go to guy as to what the Bible says and doesn't say.... ::)
You are not only biblically ignorant, you are economically challenged as well.
Your number was no doubt 1! ;)

I don't want to be your go-to guy for what the Bible teaches. Those should be the words in red. You should be using that as your strainer through which the rest of the canon is being filtered. Jesus' parables are clear about economics and about how to treat those who are less fortunate. I'm sorry your god of capitalism can't see through the Benjamins to recognize Jesus' teaching.

Yet again, I remind you of reality:

Actually people do risk their life to leave Mexico (a free market economy) to come to the United States.  Good government and prosperity is more than just being a free market economy.
 
Smellin Coffee said:
Who works 20 years at Walmart?

I have a relative that worked 40 years for Walmart.
 
Truck drivers who started with Walmart with their stock programs many retired as millionaires.
 
Smellin Coffee said:
Twisted said:
And who's paying for the C- section?  Was he injured at work? 

It used to be immigrants had to have support here before they come. 

This is exactly who we DON'T want immigrating.  So, Smellin', step up and pay the rent and the C-Section.  And get them internet.

He was not injured at work.

Glad you are being the hands and feet to Jesus to these folks by wanting to send them back to their pillaged village, risking their lives again. Pro-life Christianity at its finest, folks!

Yet another example of why I am Exvangelical. And yes, I have been personally helping them financially by paying what I am able to, some of their expenses.

I'll post this here, but I'm wasting my time as people like Smellin' have zero comprehension on such matters.  Of course he didn't answer who's paying for their medical care.  We all know that answer.  WE ARE.

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