rsc2a said:Tom Brennan said:...still IFB b/c I strongly believe in each of the words for which those initials stand.
Independent - just like all the other independent baptist churches who send their kids to the to the same schools, host the conferences, read the same books, have the same extra-biblical doctrines, fall over themselves about the same leaders...
Walt said:rsc2a said:Tom Brennan said:...still IFB b/c I strongly believe in each of the words for which those initials stand.
Independent - just like all the other independent baptist churches who send their kids to the to the same schools, host the conferences, read the same books, have the same extra-biblical doctrines, fall over themselves about the same leaders...
This is rather a cheap shot. Tom Brennan has clearly and publicly repudiated those sections of the IFB movement that exalt men and that preach personal opinion over the Scriptures.
RAIDER said:rsc2a said:I consider myself to be Christian.
By the Biblical definition of that word you could have all of us fooled!
fishinnut said:I was doing some driving today so I listened to the rest of the sermon. He was doing a JH type of conference rant which hit all the IFBX hot-buttons:BALAAM said:fishinnut said:A few week ago I ran into an old preacher friend who I had not seen in years at my work place. Of course, as an good IFBX preacher does any time I run into one, he asked the obligatory question, "So where are you now brother?" As usual I give my dead-pan face & smart-alec answer, "I'm right here." What they always mean is WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO CHURCH?
I told him I no longer attend a IFB church but rather a NON-DOM church that is totally casual in dress, contemporary in music, expository in preaching where people get saved all the time. His reaction was classic. First he got red in the face, then his pulpit pounding hand started trying to find a non-existent pulpit as he started getting into a preaching mode telling me he NEVER had a reason to look outside of the IFB movement. I told him that if that was where he wanted to be I was good with that & not fighting it.
Just today he came into my work place again, in a dress short sleeved white shirt & tie on & hands me a CD with a sermon by Bob Grey that Bob recently preached in this guy's church. I kindly thanked him for thinking of me with such kind gesture. I joked with him saying, "Bob always big on sermon titles!"
I knew from the moment he gave the CD to me..........what he was doing (attempting to get me RIGHT WITH GOD). I listened to about 10 minutes of the sermon entitled, Odd man out. It started off with his favorite IFBX stars, Rice, Roberson, Roloff, Jack Fraiser-you-know-who, Malone, Hatch etc who he had had preach for him & with whom he had preached in his 43 years of ministry. ALL.......who in their field were the "odd man out"............I guess in his mind the outstanding men......including himself.
So to the the subject of this thread I'll claim the title........odd man out..............but out of the IFBX & glad of it.
Bye-Bye Bob........
If anyone wants the CD send a stamped self addressed padded envelope to:
Odd Man Out
Loving Jesus & Others Pky
The Hills of Freedom, USA
If I had only one reason to disassociate myself from ifbxdom it would be Bob Gray.
KJV,
Bob,
Heros of IFB himself included,
Bob,
Preachin', foot-stompin' & pulpit pounding against sin...........or in this case several pot-shots at women for wearing pants ever, & mini-skirts,
Bob.
Criticism of the MOG,
Bob,
Numbers.....his own,
Numbers.....of the giga-churches (running over 20,000 & why they cannot be doing church right, which includes Bible versions used (he said the pastor of FBC, ATL uses the NIV...sorry Bob but get your facts straight before your criticism of other MOG) music used, 3 to thrice or not, "grace preachin' whatever that is", dress type & others of his preferences.
Bob,
He also said, " Back in the 70's the Beatles brought rock & roll & long hair to America."
Oh.....& about 5-8 minutes of an OT text that he used as a springboard for his preachin' about nt churches.
I
BALAAM said:fishinnut said:I was doing some driving today so I listened to the rest of the sermon. He was doing a JH type of conference rant which hit all the IFBX hot-buttons:BALAAM said:fishinnut said:A few week ago I ran into an old preacher friend who I had not seen in years at my work place. Of course, as an good IFBX preacher does any time I run into one, he asked the obligatory question, "So where are you now brother?" As usual I give my dead-pan face & smart-alec answer, "I'm right here." What they always mean is WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO CHURCH?
I told him I no longer attend a IFB church but rather a NON-DOM church that is totally casual in dress, contemporary in music, expository in preaching where people get saved all the time. His reaction was classic. First he got red in the face, then his pulpit pounding hand started trying to find a non-existent pulpit as he started getting into a preaching mode telling me he NEVER had a reason to look outside of the IFB movement. I told him that if that was where he wanted to be I was good with that & not fighting it.
Just today he came into my work place again, in a dress short sleeved white shirt & tie on & hands me a CD with a sermon by Bob Grey that Bob recently preached in this guy's church. I kindly thanked him for thinking of me with such kind gesture. I joked with him saying, "Bob always big on sermon titles!"
I knew from the moment he gave the CD to me..........what he was doing (attempting to get me RIGHT WITH GOD). I listened to about 10 minutes of the sermon entitled, Odd man out. It started off with his favorite IFBX stars, Rice, Roberson, Roloff, Jack Fraiser-you-know-who, Malone, Hatch etc who he had had preach for him & with whom he had preached in his 43 years of ministry. ALL.......who in their field were the "odd man out"............I guess in his mind the outstanding men......including himself.
So to the the subject of this thread I'll claim the title........odd man out..............but out of the IFBX & glad of it.
Bye-Bye Bob........
If anyone wants the CD send a stamped self addressed padded envelope to:
Odd Man Out
Loving Jesus & Others Pky
The Hills of Freedom, USA
If I had only one reason to disassociate myself from ifbxdom it would be Bob Gray.
KJV,
Bob,
Heros of IFB himself included,
Bob,
Preachin', foot-stompin' & pulpit pounding against sin...........or in this case several pot-shots at women for wearing pants ever, & mini-skirts,
Bob.
Criticism of the MOG,
Bob,
Numbers.....his own,
Numbers.....of the giga-churches (running over 20,000 & why they cannot be doing church right, which includes Bible versions used (he said the pastor of FBC, ATL uses the NIV...sorry Bob but get your facts straight before your criticism of other MOG) music used, 3 to thrice or not, "grace preachin' whatever that is", dress type & others of his preferences.
Bob,
He also said, " Back in the 70's the Beatles brought rock & roll & long hair to America."
Oh.....& about 5-8 minutes of an OT text that he used as a springboard for his preachin' about nt churches.
I
This post has me confused. How is this message any different than any other of Bob's messages except for the title and a few different stories>?
fishinnut said:I was doing some driving today so I listened to the rest of the sermon. He was doing a JH type of conference rant which hit all the IFBX hot-buttons:BALAAM said:fishinnut said:A few week ago I ran into an old preacher friend who I had not seen in years at my work place. Of course, as an good IFBX preacher does any time I run into one, he asked the obligatory question, "So where are you now brother?" As usual I give my dead-pan face & smart-alec answer, "I'm right here." What they always mean is WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO CHURCH?
I told him I no longer attend a IFB church but rather a NON-DOM church that is totally casual in dress, contemporary in music, expository in preaching where people get saved all the time. His reaction was classic. First he got red in the face, then his pulpit pounding hand started trying to find a non-existent pulpit as he started getting into a preaching mode telling me he NEVER had a reason to look outside of the IFB movement. I told him that if that was where he wanted to be I was good with that & not fighting it.
Just today he came into my work place again, in a dress short sleeved white shirt & tie on & hands me a CD with a sermon by Bob Grey that Bob recently preached in this guy's church. I kindly thanked him for thinking of me with such kind gesture. I joked with him saying, "Bob always big on sermon titles!"
I knew from the moment he gave the CD to me..........what he was doing (attempting to get me RIGHT WITH GOD). I listened to about 10 minutes of the sermon entitled, Odd man out. It started off with his favorite IFBX stars, Rice, Roberson, Roloff, Jack Fraiser-you-know-who, Malone, Hatch etc who he had had preach for him & with whom he had preached in his 43 years of ministry. ALL.......who in their field were the "odd man out"............I guess in his mind the outstanding men......including himself.
So to the the subject of this thread I'll claim the title........odd man out..............but out of the IFBX & glad of it.
Bye-Bye Bob........
If anyone wants the CD send a stamped self addressed padded envelope to:
Odd Man Out
Loving Jesus & Others Pky
The Hills of Freedom, USA
If I had only one reason to disassociate myself from ifbxdom it would be Bob Gray.
KJV,
Bob,
Heros of IFB himself included,
Bob,
Preachin', foot-stompin' & pulpit pounding against sin...........or in this case several pot-shots at women for wearing pants ever, & mini-skirts,
Bob.
Criticism of the MOG,
Bob,
Numbers.....his own,
Numbers.....of the giga-churches (running over 20,000 & why they cannot be doing church right, which includes Bible versions used (he said the pastor of FBC, ATL uses the NIV...sorry Bob but get your facts straight before your criticism of other MOG) music used, 3 to thrice or not, "grace preachin' whatever that is", dress type & others of his preferences.
Bob,
He also said, " Back in the 70's the Beatles brought rock & roll & long hair to America."
Oh.....& about 5-8 minutes of an OT text that he used as a springboard for his preachin' about nt churches.
I
BiblePreacher said:Still IFB. Bible-believing, KJV, hymn-singing.
A lot of years have passed and I've dropped the man-worship and learned to preach the Bible. Growth has never caused me to leave my roots, because I believe that my roots are still Bible based.
BiblePreacher said:Still IFB. Bible-believing, KJV, hymn-singing.
A lot of years have passed and I've dropped the man-worship and learned to preach the Bible. Growth has never caused me to leave my roots, because I believe that my roots are still Bible based.
I hadn't heard any of Bob's preachin' in many years.....mostly heard what you had reported. So, I thought I'd do a little reporting myself. I did not believe half of the stories he told. He was inaccurate in another illustration. But from the crowd to which he was speaking he drew a lot of Amens..........but of course he told them "You'd better say Amen!"BALAAM said:fishinnut said:I was doing some driving today so I listened to the rest of the sermon. He was doing a JH type of conference rant which hit all the IFBX hot-buttons:BALAAM said:fishinnut said:A few week ago I ran into an old preacher friend who I had not seen in years at my work place. Of course, as an good IFBX preacher does any time I run into one, he asked the obligatory question, "So where are you now brother?" As usual I give my dead-pan face & smart-alec answer, "I'm right here." What they always mean is WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO CHURCH?
I told him I no longer attend a IFB church but rather a NON-DOM church that is totally casual in dress, contemporary in music, expository in preaching where people get saved all the time. His reaction was classic. First he got red in the face, then his pulpit pounding hand started trying to find a non-existent pulpit as he started getting into a preaching mode telling me he NEVER had a reason to look outside of the IFB movement. I told him that if that was where he wanted to be I was good with that & not fighting it.
Just today he came into my work place again, in a dress short sleeved white shirt & tie on & hands me a CD with a sermon by Bob Grey that Bob recently preached in this guy's church. I kindly thanked him for thinking of me with such kind gesture. I joked with him saying, "Bob always big on sermon titles!"
I knew from the moment he gave the CD to me..........what he was doing (attempting to get me RIGHT WITH GOD). I listened to about 10 minutes of the sermon entitled, Odd man out. It started off with his favorite IFBX stars, Rice, Roberson, Roloff, Jack Fraiser-you-know-who, Malone, Hatch etc who he had had preach for him & with whom he had preached in his 43 years of ministry. ALL.......who in their field were the "odd man out"............I guess in his mind the outstanding men......including himself.
So to the the subject of this thread I'll claim the title........odd man out..............but out of the IFBX & glad of it.
Bye-Bye Bob........
If anyone wants the CD send a stamped self addressed padded envelope to:
Odd Man Out
Loving Jesus & Others Pky
The Hills of Freedom, USA
If I had only one reason to disassociate myself from ifbxdom it would be Bob Gray.
KJV,
Bob,
Heros of IFB himself included,
Bob,
Preachin', foot-stompin' & pulpit pounding against sin...........or in this case several pot-shots at women for wearing pants ever, & mini-skirts,
Bob.
Criticism of the MOG,
Bob,
Numbers.....his own,
Numbers.....of the giga-churches (running over 20,000 & why they cannot be doing church right, which includes Bible versions used (he said the pastor of FBC, ATL uses the NIV...sorry Bob but get your facts straight before your criticism of other MOG) music used, 3 to thrice or not, "grace preachin' whatever that is", dress type & others of his preferences.
Bob,
He also said, " Back in the 70's the Beatles brought rock & roll & long hair to America."
Oh.....& about 5-8 minutes of an OT text that he used as a springboard for his preachin' about NT churches.
I
This post has me confused. How is this message any different than any other of Bob's messages except for the title and a few different stories>?
Binaca Chugger said:I now proclaim the name ofChrist instead of Hyles, Rice, Roloff and their pals.
SwampHag said:I am Independent Baptist.
Nice.praise_yeshua said:SwampHag said:I am Independent Baptist.
Dependent Baptist is better....better yet... .just Dependent.