What SmellinCoffee says is true

[Bruh]

Yes, please continue to tell us all you know.  We are here to support you in your recovery.  This is, in part what the FFF has been for many so please continue.......

Trust me we all want to know anything else you found out at FBCH. 

 

[RAIDER]

I suppose I should answer some of the questions that I raised yesterday. It is very hard for me to do so. After I shared my story yesterday I had a major panic attack and had to call my therapist who helped me through the day. As the panic went don I felt a sense of relief. No one came to my house, no one threatened me. It actually felt good.

I can only post at certain times of the day. My job has requirements that make unlimted internet access impossible. I suppose I should have waited till today, April 2, to tell my story, but my therapist said we had made a breakthrough and I should share my story. It probably seems odd to some that this would come on April 1. I suppose I found a kinship with Smellincoffee. Somebody had a story somewhat like mine. If it was my old bosses in security who tried to bug his dad then I believe him. The setup at BC sounds like something those guys would do.

I'll try to explain a little more what I saw in the secret room. My first reaction was shock. My next feeling was to get out of there quickly. The electrical boxes looked a lot like old telephone switchboards. A lot of wires came up from the floor and each wire was fed into the machine. There were knobs and dials at the top. I think that each station received sound from a different part of the college, church and HB. Where the wires came from I don't know. A main wire ran from the machine to the reel-to-reel machines. They were reel-to-reel machines. There were boxes of tapes laying next to each table. How many times have I wished I had taken some with me.

Perhaps I will share more later about how I have tried to recover. This is the hardest thing I have done in a long time, so please be patient with me.

Thanks for following up, Scott. You might get some backlash on the forum because you made it public but there really is nothing to fear from Hammond. If anybody had reason to be attacked, I'm sure I was on the list as a relative of mine was the editor for Glover's book. During the 80s when I went back to the campus to pick up my yearbook from the previous year after graduation, I had to have a security guard escort me even though my parents were still on staff. About 10 years ago, I needed to get my transcripts and I was able to roam the halls with no issues, once I signed in at the front lobby. I never felt threatened. I felt judged by a couple who knew me, yes, but not threatened.

Glad to see you are getting counseling. If the therapist is a good one, you will probably work through various stages of grief. In the end, it should culminate in forgiving those who created that fear inside you. It might take years but that is the ultimate goal.

Pray for Hammond. Pray for those who hurt you. Pray for those who have been hurt. Pray for those who look back on history and learn from the crap we went through. Hang in there and share as you feel somewhat comfortable. You don't have to reply to every question so peel back the layers a little at a time as you are able.

God bless you!

Dan

I'm thinking a dozen hot chocolate chip cookies would help Scott make it through.

 

[Smellin Coffee]

I suppose I should answer some of the questions that I raised yesterday. It is very hard for me to do so. After I shared my story yesterday I had a major panic attack and had to call my therapist who helped me through the day. As the panic went don I felt a sense of relief. No one came to my house, no one threatened me. It actually felt good.

I can only post at certain times of the day. My job has requirements that make unlimted internet access impossible. I suppose I should have waited till today, April 2, to tell my story, but my therapist said we had made a breakthrough and I should share my story. It probably seems odd to some that this would come on April 1. I suppose I found a kinship with Smellincoffee. Somebody had a story somewhat like mine. If it was my old bosses in security who tried to bug his dad then I believe him. The setup at BC sounds like something those guys would do.

I'll try to explain a little more what I saw in the secret room. My first reaction was shock. My next feeling was to get out of there quickly. The electrical boxes looked a lot like old telephone switchboards. A lot of wires came up from the floor and each wire was fed into the machine. There were knobs and dials at the top. I think that each station received sound from a different part of the college, church and HB. Where the wires came from I don't know. A main wire ran from the machine to the reel-to-reel machines. They were reel-to-reel machines. There were boxes of tapes laying next to each table. How many times have I wished I had taken some with me.

Perhaps I will share more later about how I have tried to recover. This is the hardest thing I have done in a long time, so please be patient with me.

Thanks for following up, Scott. You might get some backlash on the forum because you made it public but there really is nothing to fear from Hammond. If anybody had reason to be attacked, I'm sure I was on the list as a relative of mine was the editor for Glover's book. During the 80s when I went back to the campus to pick up my yearbook from the previous year after graduation, I had to have a security guard escort me even though my parents were still on staff. About 10 years ago, I needed to get my transcripts and I was able to roam the halls with no issues, once I signed in at the front lobby. I never felt threatened. I felt judged by a couple who knew me, yes, but not threatened.

Glad to see you are getting counseling. If the therapist is a good one, you will probably work through various stages of grief. In the end, it should culminate in forgiving those who created that fear inside you. It might take years but that is the ultimate goal.

Pray for Hammond. Pray for those who hurt you. Pray for those who have been hurt. Pray for those who look back on history and learn from the crap we went through. Hang in there and share as you feel somewhat comfortable. You don't have to reply to every question so peel back the layers a little at a time as you are able.

God bless you!

Dan

I'm thinking a dozen hot chocolate chip cookies would help Scott make it through.

 

[RAIDER]

This thread could become the smoking gun for which all the haters are looking. 

 

[Smellin Coffee]

This thread could become the smoking gun for which all the haters are looking. 

 

[deertracks]

I don't know what is harder to believe the crazy whacked out story that this guy has come up with ( actually pretty good) or that smellin seems to believe the guy.

 

[RAIDER]

I don't know what is harder to believe the crazy whacked out story that this guy has come up with ( actually pretty good) or that smellin seems to believe the guy.

Hang around the HAC FFF.  there are plenty of whacked out stories that people believe. 

 

[qwerty]

Guess I will step up and bring some validity to this story......

one moment, have a call....

 

[Binaca Chugger]

Welcome Scott.  What a story!  Well crafted bit of lore. 

My gut says that this story is interwoven truth and fiction in such a way that it is difficult to tell one from the other.  People disappearing, strange noises, et. al. is all written with such color it reminds me of a campfire story.

Just out of curiosity, where was this door?  When you walk in the front door to the office complex, there was a stair well on the right.  I believe the double doors that were always locked there led into the sunken room used for Primary 1.  In my mind, that is what you are thinking of, which, of course, shows this story to be bunk.

A little bit of reality. 

• Wires were not run from Schererville to Hammond.  The cost is laughable.
• In fact, there were not wires run through that building until about- wait - 89 to 91!  My friends were the ones running the wires to network the college.  It was a huge undertaking met with by lots of resistance by many people.  There was alot of push back wondering why wires were being run.  It was for the network.  Many people in HAC were computer illiterate and had all sorts of ideas.
• Smellin's story consisted of a walkie-talkie.  Scott's consisted of elaborate machinery.  This does not add up.
• That techy deacon was definitely not on a team to discover things.  He had too much else to do with his business.  Trust me.
• The walls have ears.  This is a statement we often used in high school and college.  You must realize that HAC and FBCH was wrought with loyalists who were happy to save America by turning in a sinner to the administration.  Though walls seemed thick, they weren't.  People you trusted to keep a secret, were performing their duty to turn you in.  You might have a conversation that you think is private, but someone overheard who shared it with someone, who shared it with someone and you were busted.  Thing about all those nooks and crannies, you never knew who was just around the corner.  The walls have ears.  Not literally, but figuratively.

 

I don't doubt that some people were bugged.  But such an elaborate system as described in the story seems to laughable.  The story in whole reminded me of "A Beautiful Mind."  My guess is that truth is somewhere in the middle.

 

[RAIDER]

• • The walls have ears.  This is a statement we often used in high school and college.  You must realize that HAC and FBCH was wrought with loyalists who were happy to save America by turning in a sinner to the administration.  Though walls seemed thick, they weren't.  People you trusted to keep a secret, were performing their duty to turn you in.  You might have a conversation that you think is private, but someone overheard who shared it with someone, who shared it with someone and you were busted.  Thing about all those nooks and crannies, you never knew who was just around the corner.  The walls have ears.  Not literally, but figuratively.

   

  
  As longer as Hackers exist there is no need for any kind of spying equipment.

 

[Bruh]

Welcome Scott.  What a story!  Well crafted bit of lore. 

My gut says that this story is interwoven truth and fiction in such a way that it is difficult to tell one from the other.  People disappearing, strange noises, et. al. is all written with such color it reminds me of a campfire story.

Just out of curiosity, where was this door?  When you walk in the front door to the office complex, there was a stair well on the right.  I believe the double doors that were always locked there led into the sunken room used for Primary 1.  In my mind, that is what you are thinking of, which, of course, shows this story to be bunk.

A little bit of reality. 

• Wires were not run from Schererville to Hammond.  The cost is laughable.
• In fact, there were not wires run through that building until about- wait - 89 to 91!  My friends were the ones running the wires to network the college.  It was a huge undertaking met with by lots of resistance by many people.  There was alot of push back wondering why wires were being run.  It was for the network.  Many people in HAC were computer illiterate and had all sorts of ideas.
• Smellin's story consisted of a walkie-talkie.  Scott's consisted of elaborate machinery.  This does not add up.
• That techy deacon was definitely not on a team to discover things.  He had too much else to do with his business.  Trust me.
• The walls have ears.  This is a statement we often used in high school and college.  You must realize that HAC and FBCH was wrought with loyalists who were happy to save America by turning in a sinner to the administration.  Though walls seemed thick, they weren't.  People you trusted to keep a secret, were performing their duty to turn you in.  You might have a conversation that you think is private, but someone overheard who shared it with someone, who shared it with someone and you were busted.  Thing about all those nooks and crannies, you never knew who was just around the corner.  The walls have ears.  Not literally, but figuratively.

 

I don't doubt that some people were bugged.  But such an elaborate system as described in the story seems to laughable.  The story in whole reminded me of "A Beautiful Mind."  My guess is that truth is somewhere in the middle.

Perfect. 

 

[Smellin Coffee]

I don't know what is harder to believe the crazy whacked out story that this guy has come up with ( actually pretty good) or that smellin seems to believe the guy.

I'm more concerned about Scott than the details of his story. If his story had the highest credibility, it makes no difference to Hammond or to me. I've forgiven the people involved and the little amount I do know, I don't need corroboration. If Scott corroborates, so be it. If not, that doesn't change what I DO know nor does it re-open Hammond scars that have healed.

I'm here for Scott if he is legit, faulty memory or not.

 

[praise_yeshua]

I don't have a dog in the race... but I don't see where the details of the wire runs where given. It is possible that some of the places were bugged and some not. The story doesn't detail where the wires ran and you're assuming he knew they went everywhere.

Also, what we might call cat 3 cabling today..... "telephone" wire... Is different that twisted plenum cabling "4 pair" being run between buildings. Such termination require skill and bulky hardware. Not "telephone" wire. Which.... works just fine for sound.

Like I said. I don't have a dog in the race. Just sharing what little I know...

 

[Bravo]

I don't have a dog in the race... but I don't see where the details of the wire runs where given. It is possible that some of the places were bugged and some not. The story doesn't detail where the wires ran and you're assuming he knew they went everywhere.

Also, what we might call cat 3 cabling today..... "telephone" wire... Is different that twisted plenum cabling "4 pair" being run between buildings. Such termination require skill and bulky hardware. Not "telephone" wire. Which.... works just fine for sound.

Like I said. I don't have a dog in the race. Just sharing what little I know...

The hard part is that it's a 30-40 minute ride from the college to the church. So the idea that the college was bugged with wires and recorded at the church property is a tough one to follow.

 

[Bruh]

Hello to all. I am a new poster to this forum. I attended Hyles Anderson back in the 80's. I have been reading with interest the stories for some time. But when I saw the comment about a work area being bugged I just had to reply. It's true. Totally true. I know. I saw it. Maybe if I can find the courage to tell about it I will.

Troll!

 

[fishinnut]

I always called the HACker security guys....Barney Fife's.

Barney Fife funny clip

 

[IFB X-Files]

OP was a great read, whether true or not.

But it would be easy to confirm.  Does anyone on the forum have access to the old building?  Then go there, follow the directions given in the OP, find the doors and go through them.

 

[qwerty]

OP was a great read, whether true or not.

But it would be easy to confirm.  Does anyone on the forum have access to the old building?  Then go there, follow the directions given in the OP, find the doors and go through them.

Probably could.... but trying to figure out the door at the bottom of the basement stairs part.... the only one I can think of is a small storage area... and it was much smaller than what was described.

If I could get some more detailed info as to which stairwell, would be inclined to check it out.

 

[SwampHag]

Whether Scott is on the level or not....there are enough 'human' wires and spies up there that make me know just about every movement and discussion was known to the 'powers that be'.

 

[RAIDER]

Whether Scott is on the level or not....there are enough 'human' wires and spies up there that make me know just about every movement and discussion was known to the 'powers that be'.

We call them "Hackers".