Tarheel Baptist said:
im going with Dave Nelms this summer to the northeast US....Boston, New York City among a few other places. He wants to plant hundreds of churches there in the immediate future thru his ministry.
The technical definition of an unreached people group, I am told, is that the population contains 2% or less professing evangelical Christians. According to most, the northeast US would probably qualify.
Admittedly, Im not familiar with Hylesology...but did attend Pastors School a couple of times while staying in a Holiday Inn. But, I don't understand why he is an outcast or considered less than fundamental.
As Dr Hyles used to say...I like the way I do it better than the way you don't do it. It seems to me that today, the shoe is on the other foot.
The same goes for Capaci...don't have any idea who he is outside of the forum posts and his website....but it appears to me he has a thriving ministry.
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Not bringing up an issue of wrong or right, but I will answer your question to the best of my ability. I don't know much about Nelms, but I will come from the Capaci angle.
Capaci started an IFB church in Hot Springs. He is a dynamic speaker and does love people. He built his church on many of the principles taught by HAC/FBCH. He started a Bible college in much the same way. He was backed by many pastors of IFB churches. He spoke at many large IFB gatherings. He hired many good IFB people to work at the college. The wide majority of these people felt that they were working for a truly IFB ministry of the HAC/FBCH stripe.
After the college had been going for a few short years Capaci slowly started to change. A few IFB pastors saw things that bothered them and quit sending their students to the college. Staff members slowly began to leave. Finances were tight. It was at this time that Capaci decided to accelerate the direction he wanted to head.
Contemporary music (with full instrumentation) is now the norm. Small groups have replaced Wednesday night church. Small groups have now replaced Sunday School. There are two morning services. The evening service has been done away with except for a small group that couldn't make the morning service. The dress standards have totally changed. While the KJV is still used in services, there are staff members that use other versions.
Again, I am not approaching this from a "right/wrong" perspective. That is not what this thread is about. Many IFB pastors and their people supported and gave to Capaci's ministry. Many sent their kids to the college believing in was an IFB college of their stripe. Many feel betrayed by what has happened.
Is Capaci's ministry thriving? My guess is that the school is under 100 and the church is running less than they did 5 years ago. That is absolutely my estimate and not fact. Capaci still loves people and preaches the Gospel. He has just decided to take a different path on the type of church he desires. I guess you would say he is trying to be more like Liberty and less like HAC.