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for their current restroom policies?
 
No.

I go to Target about 3-6 times a month as that is where my in-law's prescriptions are filled and I pick them up much of the time because neither can drive.

I've used the Target bathroom maybe two times in the last 8 years and have never seen a transgendered person in a Target restroom (nor any other public one, at least that I can recall) so it is a non-issue with me.
 
Smellin Coffee said:
No.

I go to Target about 3-6 times a month as that is where my in-law's prescriptions are filled and I pick them up much of the time because neither can drive.

I've used the Target bathroom maybe two times in the last 8 years and have never seen a transgendered person in a Target restroom (nor any other public one, at least that I can recall) so it is a non-issue with me.

Do you feel their new policy will "open the door" (no pun intended) to problems?
 
RAIDER said:
Smellin Coffee said:
No.

I go to Target about 3-6 times a month as that is where my in-law's prescriptions are filled and I pick them up much of the time because neither can drive.

I've used the Target bathroom maybe two times in the last 8 years and have never seen a transgendered person in a Target restroom (nor any other public one, at least that I can recall) so it is a non-issue with me.

Do you feel their new policy will "open the door" (no pun intended) to problems?

No. Hasn't been a problem in the past.

Many places (including our local Sam's Club) now have a third bathroom (at least in my area) with a third bathroom for unisex and/or family. If there are problems, I see stores going to a third bathroom. If transgendered people make up one half of one percent of the population, half of those would use "the other sex" bathrooms and if only 1% of those are actual predators, the odds of my wife or child being in the bathroom with a predatory transgendered person is astronomical. And with 80% of predators victimizing the people they actually know...

And my family knows if they are ever in an uncomfortable situation, leave that situation. If I walk into a men's room and see 4 bikers with tire irons, I'm not stopping to pee, I'm headed back out the door. So if someone feels threatened, they can use other facilities or wait until the perceived threat leaves the bathroom.

Not that complicated.
 
Here is the article.

More than 340,000 have signed a pledge to stop shopping at Target, in response to the corporation?s announcement this week that transgender employees and customers will be allowed to use the bathroom that corresponds with their gender identity.

?This means a man can simply say he ?feels like a woman today? and enter the women's restroom... even if young girls or women are already in there,? stated the American Family Association, which started the petition.

Target on Tuesday became the first giant retailer to weigh in on an issue at the center of a heated national debate.

The announcement came just after North Carolina passed a law requiring people to use bathrooms in public facilities that correspond with their gender at birth.

?#BoycottTarget has resonated with Americans,? wrote AFA president Tim Wildmon.

?Target?s harmful policy poses a danger to women and children. Predators and voyeurs would take advantage of the policy to prey on those who are vulnerable. It?s clear now that many customers agree.?
 
RAIDER said:
?Target?s harmful policy poses a danger to women and children. Predators and voyeurs would take advantage of the policy to prey on those who are vulnerable. It?s clear now that many customers agree.?

Again, the odds of a predator being in the restroom at the same time as me (or whomever) is astronomical. The odds of that predator attacking a stranger makes the odds even stronger.

Aren't male molesters currently allowed in men's restrooms with boys? How many news items have you heard about boys being abused by a total stranger in a public restroom? No doubt it has happened but it certainly is not a common occurrence. I would bet there are more news items of children being molested in a church building by a preacher or SS teacher or youth worker than there has been documented cases of a predator of the same sex, attacking a stranger in the bathroom. And a transgendered predator? Less often than that, I suppose.

First thing big businesses do in making company policies is to run legalities should a problem arise in an effort to avoid lawsuits. I highly doubt this policy was made without running through the legalities of the consequences and if it was a perceived threat, they would attempt to do whatever they can to avoid public safety issues.

What is happening is fear-mongering. I'm not denying the need for safety nor training children how to respond to personal threats because threats ARE real. But to create fear of someone else based on their difference in appearance, is a step toward violence against innocent people.
 
Yes. After checking my records I spend $4000 a year at Target. Amazon, here we come...
 
If someone feels the need to boycott, go for it. Not of my concern. I just feel for me, it is a foolish endeavor and once the wave passes, people will come back. And with the way companies are buying other corporations, there will eventually be a boycott of every major industry in the US.

Is the principle for which you boycott worthy of you abandoning every shopping mall, every chain department store, every on-line buying service? Is one committed to boycotting those organizations for life? If it is that important to you, then you SHOULD do it!
 
One has to wonder how far this agenda will go.  We have already crossed legalizing marriage and requiring insurance coverage.  Now we are on the restroom issue.

Romans 1
24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
 
Smellin Coffee said:
No.

I go to Target about 3-6 times a month as that is where my in-law's prescriptions are filled and I pick them up much of the time because neither can drive.

I've used the Target bathroom maybe two times in the last 8 years and have never seen a transgendered person in a Target restroom (nor any other public one, at least that I can recall) so it is a non-issue with me.

It would be a shot in the dark since less than half of one percent of the population self identify as transgender....but that can evidently vary from second to second. Why change or streamline a policy for such a small percentage of the population at the expense of the vast majority of said population?

The answer is, of course, that the issue is the progressive liberal agenda seeks to cram acceptance of abnormal behaviour down our throats. This is simply the lefts latest outrage of the month....Cecil the Lion goes to the bathroom.
 
Smellin Coffee said:
RAIDER said:
?Target?s harmful policy poses a danger to women and children. Predators and voyeurs would take advantage of the policy to prey on those who are vulnerable. It?s clear now that many customers agree.?

Again, the odds of a predator being in the restroom at the same time as me (or whomever) is astronomical. The odds of that predator attacking a stranger makes the odds even stronger.

Aren't male molesters currently allowed in men's restrooms with boys? How many news items have you heard about boys being abused by a total stranger in a public restroom? No doubt it has happened but it certainly is not a common occurrence. I would bet there are more news items of children being molested in a church building by a preacher or SS teacher or youth worker than there has been documented cases of a predator of the same sex, attacking a stranger in the bathroom. And a transgendered predator? Less often than that, I suppose.

First thing big businesses do in making company policies is to run legalities should a problem arise in an effort to avoid lawsuits. I highly doubt this policy was made without running through the legalities of the consequences and if it was a perceived threat, they would attempt to do whatever they can to avoid public safety issues.

What is happening is fear-mongering. I'm not denying the need for safety nor training children how to respond to personal threats because threats ARE real. But to create fear of someone else based on their difference in appearance, is a step toward violence against innocent people.

You are misinformed....yet again.  ;)
Voyeurism in Target restroom.
http://www.cbs46.com/story/27529761/man-charged-with-voyeurism-in-target-bathroom-in-court

And, no, convicted molesters by law can't be in a restroom with little boys.
They are responsible to avoid all contact with children...usually 50 feet or 50 yards, depending on the specifics of the court order.
I know this because our Celebrate Recovery program works with some convicted molesters and we have to be very careful as to the how, when and where as witty to help them.
 
Tarheel Baptist said:
Smellin Coffee said:
No.

I go to Target about 3-6 times a month as that is where my in-law's prescriptions are filled and I pick them up much of the time because neither can drive.

I've used the Target bathroom maybe two times in the last 8 years and have never seen a transgendered person in a Target restroom (nor any other public one, at least that I can recall) so it is a non-issue with me.

It would be a shot in the dark since less than half of one percent of the population self identify as transgender....but that can evidently vary from second to second. Why change or streamline a policy for such a small percentage of the population at the expense of the vast majority of said population?

So business have no right to change status quo in their corporate policies? Would they make the decision if it really did cost them money and harm their businesses?

Tarheel Baptist said:
The answer is, of course, that the issue is the progressive liberal agenda seeks to cram acceptance of abnormal behaviour down our throats. This is simply the lefts latest outrage of the month....Cecil the Lion goes to the bathroom.

Or perhaps a Libertarian agenda. ;)
 
Smellin Coffee said:
Tarheel Baptist said:
Smellin Coffee said:
No.

I go to Target about 3-6 times a month as that is where my in-law's prescriptions are filled and I pick them up much of the time because neither can drive.

I've used the Target bathroom maybe two times in the last 8 years and have never seen a transgendered person in a Target restroom (nor any other public one, at least that I can recall) so it is a non-issue with me.

It would be a shot in the dark since less than half of one percent of the population self identify as transgender....but that can evidently vary from second to second. Why change or streamline a policy for such a small percentage of the population at the expense of the vast majority of said population?

So business have no right to change status quo in their corporate policies? Would they make the decision if it really did cost them money and harm their businesses?

Tarheel Baptist said:
The answer is, of course, that the issue is the progressive liberal agenda seeks to cram acceptance of abnormal behaviour down our throats. This is simply the lefts latest outrage of the month....Cecil the Lion goes to the bathroom.

Or perhaps a Libertarian agenda. ;)

Remember how fast the Duck Thingy Program was reinstated.
And, the verdict is still out on Target but the boycott has been the #1 trending topic on FB the past 3 days and the petition has almost 500,000 signs in a short time period.

And Libertarianism is not monolithic...but this is a progressive, liberal socialist democrat agenda.....an you know it!
 
Tarheel Baptist said:
Smellin Coffee said:
RAIDER said:
?Target?s harmful policy poses a danger to women and children. Predators and voyeurs would take advantage of the policy to prey on those who are vulnerable. It?s clear now that many customers agree.?

Again, the odds of a predator being in the restroom at the same time as me (or whomever) is astronomical. The odds of that predator attacking a stranger makes the odds even stronger.

Aren't male molesters currently allowed in men's restrooms with boys? How many news items have you heard about boys being abused by a total stranger in a public restroom? No doubt it has happened but it certainly is not a common occurrence. I would bet there are more news items of children being molested in a church building by a preacher or SS teacher or youth worker than there has been documented cases of a predator of the same sex, attacking a stranger in the bathroom. And a transgendered predator? Less often than that, I suppose.

First thing big businesses do in making company policies is to run legalities should a problem arise in an effort to avoid lawsuits. I highly doubt this policy was made without running through the legalities of the consequences and if it was a perceived threat, they would attempt to do whatever they can to avoid public safety issues.

What is happening is fear-mongering. I'm not denying the need for safety nor training children how to respond to personal threats because threats ARE real. But to create fear of someone else based on their difference in appearance, is a step toward violence against innocent people.

You are misinformed....yet again.  ;)
Voyeurism in Target restroom.
http://www.cbs46.com/story/27529761/man-charged-with-voyeurism-in-target-bathroom-in-court

And like I said, it DOES and WILL happen, but not at the frequency as you will find in, say, a church.

Tarheel Baptist said:
And, no, convicted molesters by law can't be in a restroom with little boys.
They are responsible to avoid all contact with children...usually 50 feet or 50 yards, depending on the specifics of the court order.
I know this because our Celebrate Recovery program works with some convicted molesters and we have to be very careful as to the how, when and where as witty to help them.

Where did I use the term 'convicted' when it came to child molesters? How many time child molesters get caught and are convicted at their first/only offense? How many of those convicted violated total strangers vs. kids/families they knew?
 
My wife asked me what I wanted her to do since she shops at Target at least once a week.  I told her not to give them another dollar!!!!

We buy groceries, clothes and even bought our children their entire Christmas there.  Will we shut them down? No! but they ain't getting nothing more from us, I can guarantee you that much. 
 
RAIDER said:
One has to wonder how far this agenda will go.  We have already crossed legalizing marriage and requiring insurance coverage.  Now we are on the restroom issue.

Then one had better go back to the Founding Fathers to point the finger at them for not creating a theocracy in our country. ;)
 
Smellin Coffee said:
RAIDER said:
One has to wonder how far this agenda will go.  We have already crossed legalizing marriage and requiring insurance coverage.  Now we are on the restroom issue.

Then one had better go back to the Founding Fathers to point the finger at them for not creating a theocracy in our country. ;)

No doubt in my mind the God gives us POTUS that we deserve.  Enter Trump or Hillary!
 
Smellin Coffee said:
RAIDER said:
One has to wonder how far this agenda will go.  We have already crossed legalizing marriage and requiring insurance coverage.  Now we are on the restroom issue.

Then one had better go back to the Founding Fathers to point the finger at them for not creating a theocracy in our country. ;)

None the specific issues Raider mentioned are confined to a theocracy.
 
I am more afraid that my daughters will be assaulted in college (Christian or otherwise) than a Target bathroom. If safety is a concern, Family restrooms are an option.  I think we need to place our concerns where they really matter. Sure assaults have happened in public bathrooms, but not to the degree that they occur in churches, colleges, and the houses of relatives. Let's make sure our kids are educated about these more-likely dangerous situations.
 
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