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Starlifter, try high-lighting the link with your cursor, and it should work.
Same thing.Starlifter, try high-lighting the link with your cursor, and it should work.
To be serious, I don't know why it's not working for you, unless your browser is breaking up the URL in a way that their server doesn't like. Does this work?I tried it again, it just says "Forbidden".
Is that an omen?
Or its because you're one of the defendants?Same thing.
Maybe God does not want me to see it!
To be serious, I don't know why it's not working for you...
Or its because you're one of the defendants?
No...To be serious, I don't know why it's not working for you, unless your browser is breaking up the URL in a way that their server doesn't like. Does this work?
Do you doubt that she was raped?
Do you doubt that Dave was a serial sexual predator enabled by his Dad?
I agree with you. I was around Joy during this terrible time and have no doubts that what she says is true. I do believe her parents sold her out for their gain. This should’ve been treated somewhat like the Schaap case. (I don’t believe that one was handled well)I have so much respect for Joy, and admire her strength and grace. Out of the shadows, indeed!
The Colsten’s daughter, Keren, was in her mother’s singing group, Sweet 16, not Strength and Beauty.Joy's high school principal, Larry Staab, is still there. Jamie Lapina was in high school with Joy and sang in the same Strength and Beauty singing group. HBHS teachers from the 70's are still in the church and may still teach at HB (Sharon Lewis and Gail Merhalski). Mrs Colsten was Joy's Sunday School superintendent. JoJo Moffitt taught college courses with Mrs Evans and I'm sure that she must've heard rumors of Dave's antics. There are hundreds still there besides Johnny Colsten; the Colsten's children were under Dave Hyles tenure as youth pastor and their daughter was in the Strength and Beauty singing group with Joy, which was mentioned in the court filings.
Walt, the idea here is that she is not suing for rape. She is suing for racketeering. She claims that both the college and the church helped cover it up in violation of federal law, and she is suing for damages.
I might just be repeating rumors but I thought initially she was trying to get the church to cooperate in providing records on Dave and when they refused she sued them as well.Yes, but the church is not really the same today as it was back then... it really just looks like a hope that the church will give her money to not pursue this. It was JH that pushed for the cover-up, and the 'inner circle' helped. I suspect that the multitude of the church didn't know what was going on and just took JH's word for everything.
I might just be repeating rumors but I thought initially she was trying to get the church to cooperate in providing records on Dave and when they refused she sued them as well.
I might just be repeating rumors but I thought initially she was trying to get the church to cooperate in providing records on Dave and when they refused she sued them as well.
She was asking the church to change the way they deal with criminal behavior . I don't know if she was heard it wasn't about monies