The influence of the 'new' IFB's.

[sword]

He's not a real doctor.

He just plays one in church.

In the 25 years I have known Tony Hutson I have never heard him refer to himself as Dr.
In his church he goes by Bro. Tony or Pastor.

Often when introduced as Dr., he will make light of it and will make a joke about another crook in a pigs tail does not make any more pig or something about lipstick on a pig. He often downplays any intro he get and often ask that they not use the Dr. before his name. Many times I have heard him qualify that it is only honorary.

I suspect Alvin does not like Tony and Larry Brown's stance on alternative and transgender lifestyles.
He seems to be a wee bit self-conscious in that regard. I say if you believe it own it.

The only knowledge I have of him is the video of him gulping the bottle of water while speaking in Longview (I believe). In that video he appears to be the stereotypical IFB-X pastor. I'm positive there's much more to him than that...but it's hard to get out of my memory bank.

Give some of his sermons a try, he quite an entertainer. He may be a little over the top for your liking.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ze6-UmRmCHQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BFCqGMVgWQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmiPqEPvoeI

 

[bgwilkinson]

He's not a real doctor.

He just plays one in church.

In the 25 years I have known Tony Hutson I have never heard him refer to himself as Dr.
In his church he goes by Bro. Tony or Pastor.

Often when introduced as Dr., he will make light of it and will make a joke about another crook in a pigs tail does not make any more pig or something about lipstick on a pig. He often downplays any intro he get and often ask that they not use the Dr. before his name. Many times I have heard him qualify that it is only honorary.

I suspect Alvin does not like Tony and Larry Brown's stance on alternative and transgender lifestyles.
He seems to be a wee bit self-conscious in that regard. I say if you believe it own it.

The only knowledge I have of him is the video of him gulping the bottle of water while speaking in Longview (I believe). In that video he appears to be the stereotypical IFB-X pastor. I'm positive there's much more to him than that...but it's hard to get out of my memory bank.

Give some of his sermons a try, he quite an entertainer. He may be a little over the top for your liking.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ze6-UmRmCHQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BFCqGMVgWQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmiPqEPvoeI

His presentation squelches his message burying it under the blizzard of zit zoos and the other general insanity.

I didn't look at any of these but I have experienced him in person several times.

 

[AlvinMartinezVoice]

When Tony Hutson came to NVBC he praised Alvin Martinez' singing and he had Jack Trieber rolling with his comedy plus Dr. Hutson had some harsh words for liberal media, seeker sensitive churches, transgendered people, CCM music, and why he hates people going on diets.

 

[bgwilkinson]

When Tony Hutson came to NVBC he praised Alvin Martinez' singing and he had Jack Trieber rolling with his comedy plus Dr. Hutson had some harsh words for liberal media, seeker sensitive churches, transgendered people, CCM music, and why he hates people going on diets.

So?

 

[TheRealJonStewart]

When Tony Hutson came to NVBC he praised Alvin Martinez' singing and he had Jack Trieber rolling with his comedy plus Dr. Hutson had some harsh words for liberal media, seeker sensitive churches, transgendered people, CCM music, and why he hates people going on diets.

Kinda like Trump?

 

[Ransom]

When Tony Hutson came to NVBC he praised Alvin Martinez' singing and he had Jack Trieber rolling with his comedy plus Dr. Hutson had some harsh words for liberal media, seeker sensitive churches, transgendered people, CCM music, and why he hates people going on diets.

Do you know any other jokes?

 

[Tarheel Baptist]

When Tony Hutson came to NVBC he praised Alvin Martinez' singing and he had Jack Trieber rolling with his comedy plus Dr. Hutson had some harsh words for liberal media, seeker sensitive churches, transgendered people, CCM music, and why he hates people going on diets.

Big Al is offended.
Which one of those are you?

 

[Bob H]

The socks ain't as good as they used to be.

 

[sword]

The transition was enigmatic.
The old guard, despite kicking and screaming to hold on, lost influence quickly and almost completely. These younger guys gained influence rapidly...'suddenly'.
At least that's how it appears from my vantage point.

"Millennials" are now approaching their early to mid-30s. There's no mystery why they're gaining influence. They're at the age where they would naturally start to take leadership roles in their churches.

I agree with Ranson that the transition of influence in understandable and inevitable.

I also contend 15% to 20% of the sons or grandsons who have taken over their fathers ministries have moved hard to the left but most of them have not. The 80% or more have embraced social media and technology. They have introduced some new methods and are shaking things up a little, but they have maintained the standards and traditions they were raised with. They are not giving in to the pressure to move hard to the left. Their churches may not be growing, but they seem to be maintaining their membership.

Golden State Baptist college, West Coast and Crown are doing fairly well and Commonwealth and Pensacola are seeing some growth. The old IFB is not dead, it is just evolving a little which is healthy.

 

[Twisted]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ze6-UmRmCHQ

Is that Vladamir Putin sitting on the right, behind the pulpit?

 

[sword]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ze6-UmRmCHQ

Is that Vladamir Putin sitting on the right, behind the pulpit?

Dr. Putin rarely attends NVBC and when he does he never sits on the platform.

 

[Tarheel Baptist]

He's not a real doctor.

He just plays one in church.

In the 25 years I have known Tony Hutson I have never heard him refer to himself as Dr.
In his church he goes by Bro. Tony or Pastor.

Often when introduced as Dr., he will make light of it and will make a joke about another crook in a pigs tail does not make any more pig or something about lipstick on a pig. He often downplays any intro he get and often ask that they not use the Dr. before his name. Many times I have heard him qualify that it is only honorary.

I suspect Alvin does not like Tony and Larry Brown's stance on alternative and transgender lifestyles.
He seems to be a wee bit self-conscious in that regard. I say if you believe it own it.

The only knowledge I have of him is the video of him gulping the bottle of water while speaking in Longview (I believe). In that video he appears to be the stereotypical IFB-X pastor. I'm positive there's much more to him than that...but it's hard to get out of my memory bank.

Give some of his sermons a try, he quite an entertainer. He may be a little over the top for your liking.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ze6-UmRmCHQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BFCqGMVgWQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmiPqEPvoeI

To say the least...

 

[TheRealJonStewart]

The transition was enigmatic.
The old guard, despite kicking and screaming to hold on, lost influence quickly and almost completely. These younger guys gained influence rapidly...'suddenly'.
At least that's how it appears from my vantage point.

"Millennials" are now approaching their early to mid-30s. There's no mystery why they're gaining influence. They're at the age where they would naturally start to take leadership roles in their churches.

I agree with Ranson that the transition of influence in understandable and inevitable.

I also contend 15% to 20% of the sons or grandsons who have taken over their fathers ministries have moved hard to the left but most of them have not. The 80% or more have embraced social media and technology. They have introduced some new methods and are shaking things up a little, but they have maintained the standards and traditions they were raised with. They are not giving in to the pressure to move hard to the left. Their churches may not be growing, but they seem to be maintaining their membership.

Golden State Baptist college, West Coast and Crown are doing fairly well and Commonwealth and Pensacola are seeing some growth. The old IFB is not dead, it is just evolving a little which is healthy.

The hard left? Come on seriously?

 

[Tarheel Baptist]

The transition was enigmatic.
The old guard, despite kicking and screaming to hold on, lost influence quickly and almost completely. These younger guys gained influence rapidly...'suddenly'.
At least that's how it appears from my vantage point.

"Millennials" are now approaching their early to mid-30s. There's no mystery why they're gaining influence. They're at the age where they would naturally start to take leadership roles in their churches.

I agree with Ranson that the transition of influence in understandable and inevitable.

I also contend 15% to 20% of the sons or grandsons who have taken over their fathers ministries have moved hard to the left but most of them have not. The 80% or more have embraced social media and technology. They have introduced some new methods and are shaking things up a little, but they have maintained the standards and traditions they were raised with. They are not giving in to the pressure to move hard to the left. Their churches may not be growing, but they seem to be maintaining their membership.

Golden State Baptist college, West Coast and Crown are doing fairly well and Commonwealth and Pensacola are seeing some growth. The old IFB is not dead, it is just evolving a little which is healthy.

I would respectfully disagree with your 'take' on the matter.
What you say is how it should be, but hardly the reality.
As they 'shake things up a little' they are being criticized by the old paths and old guard.
They are being soundly criticized because of their supposed 'lack of standards'.
Pensacola is hardly IFB by the old path standards...their campus church is merely an arm of and tightly controlled by the school.
Paul Chappell is the brightest of the IFB stars, but he receives steady criticism for his 'compromise'.

The IFB, as a 'movement' is on life support...but the patient will hopefully survive, but very frail and fragile when compared to her past.

 

[TonyHutsonComedian]

Bro. Tony doing what he does best, stand up comedy ala Jack Hyles and Don Rickles. Also he does seem to be prejudiced towards Native Americans and he hates CCM/Hillsong and churches with CCM Rock Bands/Words on the Wall instead of Hymnals.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XncLgBDiZ7E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLkGzESFL2A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PM2W_yR7Rpg

 

[sword]

The transition was enigmatic.
The old guard, despite kicking and screaming to hold on, lost influence quickly and almost completely. These younger guys gained influence rapidly...'suddenly'.
At least that's how it appears from my vantage point.

"Millennials" are now approaching their early to mid-30s. There's no mystery why they're gaining influence. They're at the age where they would naturally start to take leadership roles in their churches.

I agree with Ranson that the transition of influence in understandable and inevitable.

I also contend 15% to 20% of the sons or grandsons who have taken over their fathers ministries have moved hard to the left but most of them have not. The 80% or more that have not left have embraced social media and technology. They have introduced some new methods and are shaking things up a little, but they have maintained the standards and traditions they were raised with. They are not giving in to the pressure to move hard to the left. Their churches may not be growing, but they seem to be maintaining their membership.

Golden State Baptist college, West Coast and Crown are doing fairly well and Commonwealth and Pensacola are seeing some growth. The old IFB is not dead, it is just evolving a little which is healthy.

The hard left? Come on seriously?

I think you miss-understood what I was saying. My point is 80% or more of the next generation have not walked away from what they were taught. They do embrace new methods and technology, but still maintain the standards taught by the 1970's, 80's and 90's IFB leaders. Many are pastoring their fathers churches or have started their own and are held up as the future. I'm suggesting only a small percentage have walked away completely and this is the group that the old guard like to criticize.

I think I said have moved hard to the left not "the hard left".

 

[TheRealJonStewart]

Hey that guy is seriously a troll tho.

 

[sword]

TonyHutsonComedian & Alvin Martinez voice must be twins.

They both beat the same drum over and over.

Talk about beating a dead horse.

I'm going to call them the TROLL TWINS.

 

[Tarheel Baptist]

TonyHutsonComedian & Alvin Martinez voice must be twins.

They both beat the same drum over and over.

Talk about beating a dead horse.

I'm going to call them the TROLL TWINS.

Maybe they are conjoined twins...

 

[prophet]

What do you expect? Millennials were bound to take over the movement one of these days.

No brainer

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