FSSL said:
praise_yeshua said:
So many presuppositions....
Yes. Time is from the very nature of God. Just like Love comes from the very nature of God. Would you argue that God has authority over love? I know a Calvinist like yourself would never believe the contrary.
You have basically made the argument that Time can't be a attribute of God because such an attribute can not be constrained. If I misunderstood your argument then please correct me.
Explain how God constraining Himself would equal denying God's nature?
I know everyone was so happy to see such an argument but it really was a rather poor rebuttal.
You did make a observation that is so very true. However, you didn't apply it correctly.
uses time as a tool to accomplish His purposes.
God's purposes are Eternal. Nothing can be added to them or taken from them. Time and God's purposes go "hand in hand". They come from His very character and are part of His very being. They are not created. They are Eternal.
About time that you got back with me! LOL!.... see what I did there?
When time is discussed in Scripture, we have God using it to set parameters for His creation. Hence, we have this passage: "It is not for you to know the times or dates the Father has set by his own authority." (Ac 1:7)
You call my use of Scripture, establishing the fact that God sets times as a poor rebuttal, yet you have no ability to defeat the premise. The infinite nature of God is being compromised.
Your approach is common among philosophers who want to equate God with time (as well as space). The Creator/creature distinction gets sidetracked. God's self-existence gets trampled by philosophers who want to make time an attribute of God. God's infinite nature cannot be constrained by our notions of time.
I do grow so very tired of your ignoring my comments to focus on your own. I keep hoping you'll stop doing this but I don't think its going to happen.
Its amazing to me that you ignore the philosophy you use in your own theology and bash me for doing the same. I imagine only a Calvinist gets to use philosophy..... Typical
Yes. Your response was entirely lacking. T-Bones thread made me remember the formal debate you had with that NUT rsca. You spent so much time dealing in your little world, you didn't even deal with an orthodox view of original sin. Talk about missing the forest for the trees.... I wish you stop and realize just how your living in your own little world.
You don't have one single verse that says time ends. Not one. You don't even have a verse that says time was created. I shared multiple verses in the thread and in our PMs. You started dealing with "Alpha and Omega" and you realized you couldn't win that argument.. now you've moved on to a Acts 1:7?
I have already said that time is integral to God purposes. Even heaven has sequence. Even things Eternal have a ever flowing stream of Time. They happen right on TIME...... This couldn't happen if "Time ends". Geesh!!!
If you can't handle this part of the discussion, then how about dealing with my OP?