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Title: Is the name the Holy Bible only for the KJV?
Post by: logos1560 on February 02, 2019, 07:46:25 PM
Does the name "the Holy Bible" always refer to only or solely the KJV?
 Does the KJV have sole and exclusive rights to this general name "the Holy Bible"?
 Was the name "the Holy Bible" used for any other English translation before 1611?

 The 1611 KJV was both a revision of earlier English translations (Tyndale's to Bishops') and a translation of the printed original-language text editions of Scripture.

 While now know as or called the 1560 Geneva Bible, it had the following title on its title page in 1560:

 The Bible and Holy Scriptures contained in the Old and New Testament, translated according to the Hebrew and Greek.

 While accurately identified as the 1568 Bishops' Bible, it had the following on its title page:

 The Holy Bible, containing the Old Testament and the New
 Authorised and appointed to be read in churches.

 The 1602 edition of the Bishops' Bible, which is the edition prepared by the printers of the 1611 KJV and given to the KJV translators as the starting point in English for their work, had the following on its title page:

 The Holy Bible, containing the Old Testament and the New
 Authorised and appointed to be read in churches

 Thus, the 1611 KJV was not the first to have this title or name the Holy Bible. The 1611 KJV merely kept this name from the title page of the Bishops' Bible, even though the Church of England makers of the KJV made hundreds and thousands of changes to the text of the Bishops' Bible.

The Holy Bible [English translation] in the Bishops' Bible is not the same as the Holy Bible [English translation] in the 1611 KJV even though both had the same name on their title page.  One important difference between the title page of the Bishops' Bible and that of the KJV was that the KJV's title page did not have the word "authorized" on it.  To distinguish between an earlier English Bible translation and the KJV, it would soon be referred to as King James' version or translation or the translation made during the time of King James.

 Some editions of the KJV were printed with the title The Holy Bible containing the Old Testament and New while other editions were printed with the title The Holy Bible containing the Old and New Testaments.

 The 1833 Webster's Bible had the following on its title page:

 The Holy Bible containing the Old and New Testaments in the common version with amendments to the language by Noah Webster.

 In 1842, an English Bible had the following on its title page:

 The Holy Bible, being the English Version of the Old and New Testament, made by order of King James I,
 carefully revised and amended by several Biblical scholars.
 Philadelphia: J. B. Lippincott, 1842.

 In 1901, the American Standard Version was published with this title:

 The Holy Bible containing the Old and New Testaments translated out of the original tongues.

 A. D. 1901
 Standard Edition
 New York: Thomas Nelson & Sons, 1901.

The non-specific general name "the Holy Bible" does not identify to which Bible text or to which Bible translation someone is referring.
Title: Re: Is the name the Holy Bible only for the KJV?
Post by: Binaca Chugger on February 02, 2019, 11:07:43 PM
Does the name "the Holy Bible" always refer to only or solely the KJV?
 

Well DUH!!!

Anyone who says otherwise is a no-count, panty-waisted, pink-tea-lemonade-sippin, lilly-livered, good-for-nothing, stinkin, liberal deadbeat.
Title: Re: Is the name the Holy Bible only for the KJV?
Post by: Twisted on February 04, 2019, 01:47:03 PM
Does the name "the Holy Bible" always refer to only or solely the KJV?
 

Well DUH!!!

Anyone who says otherwise is a no-count, panty-waisted, pink-tea-lemonade-sippin, lilly-livered, good-for-nothing, stinkin, liberal deadbeat.

Ditto that!
Title: Re: Is the name the Holy Bible only for the KJV?
Post by: bgwilkinson on February 04, 2019, 06:28:31 PM
Here is one from 1535.

http://bibles-online.net/1535/Introduction/ (http://bibles-online.net/1535/Introduction/)
Title: Re: Is the name the Holy Bible only for the KJV?
Post by: bgwilkinson on February 04, 2019, 06:31:42 PM
John Rogers from 1537.

http://www.bibles-online.net/1537/Introduction/ (http://www.bibles-online.net/1537/Introduction/)
Title: Re: Is the name the Holy Bible only for the KJV?
Post by: bgwilkinson on February 04, 2019, 06:34:10 PM
First English Government version 1541. Official State Bible.

http://bibles-online.net/1541/Introduction/ (http://bibles-online.net/1541/Introduction/)
Title: Re: Is the name the Holy Bible only for the KJV?
Post by: Ransom on February 05, 2019, 11:38:53 AM
KJV-onlyists: The Bible can have no copyright!

Also KJV-onlyists: Only the KJV may be called the Holy Bible.

Leaving aside the fact that you can't copyright a title, do these clowns ever realize when they're caught in a contradiction?
Title: Re: Is the name the Holy Bible only for the KJV?
Post by: Twisted on February 06, 2019, 11:05:40 AM
KJV-onlyists: The Bible can have no copyright!

Also KJV-onlyists: Only the KJV may be called the Holy Bible.

Leaving aside the fact that you can't copyright a title, do these clowns ever realize when they're caught in a contradiction?

I prefer "nut" to "clown".
Title: Re: Is the name the Holy Bible only for the KJV?
Post by: Ransom on February 07, 2019, 04:11:37 PM
I prefer "nut" to "clown".

I prefer "scumbag" to either, but I was being polite.
Title: Re: Is the name the Holy Bible only for the KJV?
Post by: Twisted on February 07, 2019, 04:22:48 PM
I prefer "nut" to "clown".

I prefer "scumbag" to either, but I was being polite.

Your humility is appreciated!
Title: Re: Is the name the Holy Bible only for the KJV?
Post by: IFB X-Files on February 07, 2019, 06:02:48 PM
Does the name "the Holy Bible" always refer to only or solely the KJV?
 

Well DUH!!!

Anyone who says otherwise is a no-count, panty-waisted, pink-tea-lemonade-sippin, lilly-livered, good-for-nothing, stinkin, liberal deadbeat.

You can't enjoy the KJV until you've read it in the original Zarus.  It just flows off your tongues.
Title: Re: Is the name the Holy Bible only for the KJV?
Post by: bgwilkinson on February 08, 2019, 02:58:17 AM
Few people read the original KJV in the Modern Era.
I don't believe KJVOs even know about this one. It destroys the narrative.

http://sceti.library.upenn.edu/sceti/printedbooksNew/index.cfm?textID=kjbible&PagePosition=1 (http://sceti.library.upenn.edu/sceti/printedbooksNew/index.cfm?textID=kjbible&PagePosition=1)
Title: Re: Is the name the Holy Bible only for the KJV?
Post by: prophet on April 17, 2019, 08:20:46 PM
Does the name "the Holy Bible" always refer to only or solely the KJV?
 

Well DUH!!!

Anyone who says otherwise is a no-count, panty-waisted, pink-tea-lemonade-sippin, lilly-livered, good-for-nothing, stinkin, liberal deadbeat.

You can't enjoy the KJV until you've read it in the original Zarus.  It just flows off your tongues.
I wrestled against a Zarris...

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Title: Re: Is the name the Holy Bible only for the KJV?
Post by: prophet on April 17, 2019, 08:22:12 PM
Isn't Holy Bible just the cover some publishers put on Bibles they printed?

I can't even imagine a need for this thread.

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Title: Re: Is the name the Holy Bible only for the KJV?
Post by: The honorable Rev. FSSL, Litt.D., Hon.D. on May 08, 2019, 10:58:26 AM
I can't even imagine a need for this thread.

STOP!!! If a "need" is the standard for posting... bye bye FFF!!! :D
Title: Re: Is the name the Holy Bible only for the KJV?
Post by: prophet on May 08, 2019, 11:34:09 AM
I can't even imagine a need for this thread.

STOP!!! If a "need" is the standard for posting... bye bye FFF!!! :D
True, lol

Job security.


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Title: Re: Is the name the Holy Bible only for the KJV?
Post by: Twisted on May 08, 2019, 12:04:42 PM
I can't even imagine a need for this thread.

STOP!!! If a "need" is the standard for posting... bye bye FFF!!! :D
True, lol

Job security.

His pay is based on the number of posts.

It's all about the numbers.
Title: Re: Is the name the Holy Bible only for the KJV?
Post by: The honorable Rev. FSSL, Litt.D., Hon.D. on May 11, 2019, 02:58:47 PM
It's all about the numbers.

Yep! FILL THE BUS, BOYS!!!!