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His are the first footprints on the Old Paths!


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The Fighting Forum / Re: When did "going to the theater" become wrong?
« on: January 12, 2016, 11:52:50 AM »
The old-time fundamentalist preachers were not against movie theaters. They were against movies. But, as you have correctly pointed out, there was not a means to watch movies anywhere other than at a theater, hence the preaching against the theater.

And moral opposition to the movie house is a direct descendant of moral opposition to the playhouse.

And, of course, for a long time movie theatres were rather tawdry. It's only in the past few decades that they've become clean, comfortable auditoriums suitable for business meetings and run by major corporations.

I knew about the perception Shakespeare's contemporaries held of him, but I did not make that connection to our more modern times. I stand corrected.

Didn't Spurgeon disagree with Joseph Parker about attending the theater?

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The Fighting Forum / Re: When did "going to the theater" become wrong?
« on: January 12, 2016, 11:16:10 AM »
There was a day when viewing a movie produced by the movie industry required one to go to a building designed especially for the viewing of that material.

Now most if not all people in this county have one or more rooms in their own homes set up for viewing content that was in the past the exclusive purview of the theater.


The old-time fundamentalist preachers were not against movie theaters. They were against movies. But, as you have correctly pointed out, there was not a means to watch movies anywhere other than at a theater, hence the preaching against the theater.

Then VCR/DVD/BlueRay/Netflix/YouTube, etc. showed up on the scene. Some preachers continued to preach against theaters while watching movies at home because they were hypocrites. Some continued to preach against theaters while also NOT watching them at home because it was a true conviction.

**The movie theater topic in IFB circles, to me, is one of the identifying marks of man-followers. You know someone is a man-follower rather than a person acting out of true conviction if they preach against going to see a movie while, at the same time, he himself is waiting for the same movie to come out on video so he can rent/buy the DVD.

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Hyles-Anderson College / Re: "Man worship" confession time!
« on: December 18, 2015, 04:23:16 PM »



I just got a new biography of Detrich Bonhoeffer today!


Would somebody please furnish me some evidence that he believed in salvation by grace through faith...

Not attacking you, Boomer. Just seriously want to know where he stood on that. I read one biography of him and it managed - while discussing the minutia of any number of theological questions - to totally avoid even mentioning that one.

Good question Tom. Just from reading about him I am sure he did believe that but I don't remember reading any specific quotes. The biography I have is written by Eric Mataxas and I am going to go through it again and try and find out. (ugh over 500 pages) I believe he personally wrote a book called "The cost of discipleship" which I want to get. I would think it would be easier to find a definite statement of faith from something like that.

The Eric Mataxas Biography is the one I just got. I got it in a bundle with The Cost of Discipleship for $20 from Christianbook.com. I'm looking forward to digging into them both after I finish up what I'm reading right now.


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Hyles-Anderson College / Re: "Man worship" confession time!
« on: December 17, 2015, 08:48:51 PM »
I've never read anything about or by him. I'll have to let you know later.

I've got two other books to finish before I start this one.


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Hyles-Anderson College / Re: "Man worship" confession time!
« on: December 17, 2015, 06:58:40 PM »
I do think it's important to look up to faithful men who follow Christ for inspiration and guidance. Reading good biographies is one way to do that.

I just got a new biography of Detrich Bonhoeffer today!


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Hyles-Anderson College / Re: "Man worship" confession time!
« on: December 17, 2015, 03:54:45 PM »
I have a man-crush on John MacArthur. I recently ran a half-marathon, and I listened to JMac sermons the whole race on my iPhone


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Hyles-Anderson College / Re: Another New IFB
« on: December 16, 2015, 01:52:22 PM »
For me, the problem with the #oldpaths (or whatever) IFB movement has been (1) Unbiblical preaching (2) Standards (personal applications of Scripture) elevated above actual Bible doctrine (3) Following men rather than Christ and Scripture.

Point #3 is best illustrated to me every time I hear someone speak out against movie theaters. The person who promotes this doctrine is only doing it because the old-time IFB (and other denom) preachers preached against theaters. To preach against theaters today misses the point. The Old-timers weren't against theaters themselves . . . They were against MOVIES completely.
    So if a man preaches against movie theaters, yet has a television in his house, I lose respect for him. The old-time IFB preachers were against watching movies (not a bad idea). It wasn't about WHERE you watched the movie, it was about the act of watching the movie itself. When the old-timers preached against the movie theater, VCRs, DVDs, Netflix, etc., did not exist. You couldn't watch a movie without going to the theatre!

I have come to the place in life where I'm not interested in 99% of the movies that come out or shows on television. Most of them grieve my spirit. Most of them are boring or "jump the shark" from the get-go. But I still went to the theatre to see that Dinesh D'Souza "America" documentary last year.

/end rant!


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Hyles-Anderson College / Re: Another New IFB
« on: December 16, 2015, 07:39:59 AM »
I forgot that Fugate hung out with Greg Neal . . . Woof! How anybody could still go to Greg Neal's church after watching that video he made is beyond me. I guess Teis is right in pointing out that IFBs since 1980 have been separating over the wrong issues.


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Hyles-Anderson College / Re: Another New IFB
« on: December 15, 2015, 08:08:11 PM »
I follow Domelle on Twitter also. Your description matches his tweets perfectly.


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