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RAIDER

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Re: Joe Combs and "sheveral vershies"
« Reply #30 on: April 03, 2013, 03:57:29 PM »
I took every class that I could from Combs.  I only remember one "wierd" thing that he said in a class.  It was my junior or senior year.  I believe it was a psychology class.  He was talking about men getting so busy that they forget about their wife.  He said, "Some of you guys ought to go home, walk in the door, and rape your wife".  Now everyone in the class knew what he meant and the Hackers were shouting "Amen" and "Glory", but it felt a little wierd.

I have to admit, that is weird, and I have never thought of a physical relationship between my wife and I in that context at all!

What he said was a little uncomfortable for us unmarried guys.  Of course we did laugh!  He was trying to get the point across that the husbands needed to let the wives know that they are thinking about them all day long and can't wait to get home.  It was just a strange way of saying it.  The Hackers did howl!!

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Re: Joe Combs and "sheveral vershies"
« Reply #31 on: April 03, 2013, 04:15:25 PM »
He said, "Some of you guys ought to go home, walk in the door, and rape your wife".

Hmmmm....I wonder who is raping her now?

I do remember when he mentioned wanting to lose weight and get in better shape because he couldn't bear the thought of another man making love to his wife (if he died prematurely).

I wonder how that's working out for him?
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RAIDER

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Re: Joe Combs and "sheveral vershies"
« Reply #32 on: April 04, 2013, 11:31:32 AM »
When you first heard about the severe accusations, did you all have a hard time believing it?  What finally convinced you.

Also, does anyone else remember him explaining the Trinity?  It was fascinating but confusing.

I graduated a couple of years before my sister.  If I remember correctly Combs left HAC the year my sister graduated ('85 or '86??).  My dates may be off.  Combs was advertised in the IFB world as the top college Bible teacher in the nation.  If that was the case I thought it was strange that he would be leaving to take a church.  It makes me wonder what may have been going on in his life at the time.  It also seems like he took a newly graduated HAC grad with him to help at the church.  Does anyone else remember this?

Yes, I was shocked at the accusations.  There are some things that surprise you (i.e. a preacher having an affair), but the depth of wickedness in this case was appalling.  As you look back you realize how strange he was.

I don't remember the trinity explanation.

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Re: Joe Combs and "sheveral vershies"
« Reply #33 on: April 04, 2013, 07:15:29 PM »
When you first heard about the severe accusations, did you all have a hard time believing it?  What finally convinced you.

Also, does anyone else remember him explaining the Trinity?  It was fascinating but confusing.

I graduated a couple of years before my sister.  If I remember correctly Combs left HAC the year my sister graduated ('85 or '86??).  My dates may be off.  Combs was advertised in the IFB world as the top college Bible teacher in the nation.  If that was the case I thought it was strange that he would be leaving to take a church.  It makes me wonder what may have been going on in his life at the time.  It also seems like he took a newly graduated HAC grad with him to help at the church.  Does anyone else remember this?

Yes, I was shocked at the accusations.  There are some things that surprise you (i.e. a preacher having an affair), but the depth of wickedness in this case was appalling.  As you look back you realize how strange he was.

I don't remember the trinity explanation.

Yes, he left after the '85-'86 school year.  Your sister and I graduated together in '86.  I remember the last time before graduation that he walked out on that platform to preach in chapel.  Nearly everyone had tears, and I remember thinking I was glad I was graduating the same year he was leaving. 

I do not in any way admire him now, but that does not negate that things he stated in class that were true then and still true today.  I at first did not believe most of what I heard about him and his wife, or, maybe I didn't want to believe it.  Proof changed my mind, and I was very saddened that anyone - let alone someone who claimed the love of Christ - could treat another creature of God - let alone another human being - the way they did.  Oh, how our heavenly Father must grieve.

I still like and believe the statements I made in an earlier post on this thread, but other than on this thread, I seldom, if ever, credit my repeating them to him.   

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Re: Joe Combs and "sheveral vershies"
« Reply #34 on: April 04, 2013, 07:56:43 PM »
I never heard Joe Combs, although I got some of his stuff second hand from my high school teacher who graduated from HAC in the early 80's. But in a very real sense he reminds me very much of Jack Schaap. He had a great reputation. He taught some very good stuff. At the same time, one could see, in hindsight, how traits that would develop as worse later were already present. Then the mind-blowing fall...

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Re: Joe Combs and "sheveral vershies"
« Reply #35 on: April 04, 2013, 09:02:05 PM »
I was at HAC for about a year just before he left for Florida. He was teaching Proverbs at the time before he left and most of us in Div 1 had thought that he was such a good bible teacher. When he left, 3 or 4 of us from division 1 went with him to start his church. However, one year later, every one come back and no one said anything about the time they were there, so it must not have been a good experience for them.

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Re: Joe Combs and "sheveral vershies"
« Reply #36 on: April 04, 2013, 09:17:41 PM »
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Re: Joe Combs and "sheveral vershies"
« Reply #37 on: April 05, 2013, 08:44:09 PM »
It will not play for me.  All I get is turn to Psalms 19.

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Re: Joe Combs and "sheveral vershies"
« Reply #38 on: April 09, 2013, 09:35:45 PM »
He was actually my favorite teacher.  His classes were interesting.  His notes were a lot like Warren Wiersbes.  It's still hard to comprehend what a monster he was.

When I had him as a freshman for OT Survey and NT Survey in '73, I thought he was great. Then a few years later I discovered Wiersbe, and I lost all respect for Combs. All the great outlines he had given us were Wiersbe's outlines. Combs had just come to HAC from MBI, where Wiersbe was the pastor of Moody Church at the time. All Combs was doing was giving us the notes he had been given just a few years earlier, with no credit given to the real author.
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Re: Joe Combs and "sheveral vershies"
« Reply #39 on: April 10, 2013, 04:04:20 PM »
I had Bro. Laurent for Old & New Testament Survey. He taught from a red 3 ring binder.  Had to know all key words, Key verse, and theme of each book. That was in 74.  Had Bro Combs for Daniel & Revelation. Only classes I had trouble with was English with Bro. Johnson and took Minor Prophets in summer school with Dr Fair. He would always give a pop quiz or a test and say " this is a fair test" Funny how you remember things that far back but cant remember what you read last night. I didn't find out till later that Bro Combs used Wiersbe notes.